It's just frustrating. All the sweaties in pvp cause me so much stress, even in games where im doing great, that playing in the shit just aint worth it. Crucible weapons, shaders, ships, gear.. It's all pretty.. meh, y'know? Some decent stuff here and there but overall it's just too much for not enough reward, especially when it's forced on us like with the subclass emblems or exotic swords and class items. That, coupled with the fact that pvp sweaties are almost all pompous, narcissistic, assholes, it becomes pretty clear that having pvp in the game is something that only serves to fuel more of that pretentious behavior. I really hope pvp is not so -blam!-ing catered to in the sequel or I'll quit. My gaurdians can die one last time when I burn the damn disc if it turns out anything like this one did.