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7/14/2016 10:52:53 PM
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First things I want to apology because I did get a little annoyed and felt I was being rude. But other then that snipers shouldn't be CQ and if they are that's an issue also I want a quote from bungie a link from the quote because I don't believe that in all honesty.
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It's all good, it's a debate at the end of the day. I'll admit I might have sounded a little rude as well, I just wanted to defend my opinion. Here's the quote: "The intent for Sniper Rifles has always been lethality at a distance using a measured approach. There are a few scopes and models of Sniper Rifles that are pushing the limits of “distance” and allowing for pretty effective twitch combat shooting at what many would consider medium range. These changes aren’t intended to remove that style of combat, but they are intended to put the player at slightly longer ranges for that style to be as effective as it is currently." As you can see, they want snipers to be used primarily at long range, but they also want them to have the capability to be used in closer quarters should a player be skilled enough to use them. You can find this same quote in the April Update patch notes, I wasn't able to upload a picture of them.
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These changes aren't here to remove that style. They didn't encourage it they encourage Long range. They want long range and they tolerate short range but the community clearly doesn't and my post and comments which are over 900 clearly don't support it. So regardless of what you want the community clearly doesn't support it and the majority is great then the minority when it comes to these issue.
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Edited by Ness: 7/15/2016 9:43:59 AMI dont mean to sound rude, but I'd like to see YOUR evidence that shows that the majority of the 900+ people on this forum call for a sniper nerf. It seems to me that there is an even split of these opinions at best, and the people that do support the nerf are usually players who are either less skilled, or players who use and/or abuse shotguns to the point that they have more kills with them than most of their other weapons. Even if I gave you the benefit of the doubt by saying the majority of the people on this forum support a sniper nerf, who is to say that they aren't an accurate representation of the Destiny community as a whole? Until we can get an accurate representation of what everyone truly wants, snipers should remain the way they are. I think I've said enough what you can do to counter them. Just for fun today, I used a handcannon and a fusion rifle for a while just to see if I would encounter any problems with snipers in close quarters. Throughout the span of several hours of using this load out, I encountered maybe 1 or 2 scenarios in which the sniper either killed me or traded with me at close quarters. When I died, it was my fault for not backing off. I just thought I'd mention this since your main concern seems to be the fact that snipers are effective at close range in the right hands when you believe that they shouldn't be. However, I hardly ran into these problems myself since I approached the snipers carefully. In my opinion, nerfing body shot damage and ADS time would encourage poor shotgunners to not use vertical space or approach snipers as aggressively as they should when they are given the opportunity.
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What I meant is that their is a considerable amount of people who are willing to talk about this meaning something is wrong. Also do you think it's arrogant to assume someone bad because they think snipers aren't balance? Also why the hatred against shotguns? Year one I get it, but now a days a shotgun blast Won't kill even when landing a driect shot to the chest at melee range.
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I don't have any hatred toward shotguns. In fact, I'm probably just as good of a shotgunner as I am a sniper. And I never said that a person is necessarily a bad player if they complain about snipers. I'm just saying that they might not particularly be good shotgunners since they should probably learn some way of avoiding them, or even attacking them, especially when I was able to use a CQC load out to do this with Hunters, who aren't even close to as good as Titans when closing the gap. Yesturday of course wasn't the only day that I used a CQC load out since I use shotguns and fusion rifles nearly as much as I do snipers. While I do use a sniper rifle most of the time, I only use it since I happen to be a fairly good sniper. If I feel that there are too many snipers, then I actually will use a shotgun since I still believe that they are the better special weapon. I don't have hate for shotguns. In fact, I don't even care if I die to them since it's my fault if I die to them. I simply don't like it when people abuse them to the point that they have more kills with them than their primaries, which I'm sure many people have done. If you check my kills, I have far more handcannon kills than anything else, and no, I don't use the last word very often unless I find shotguns to be irritating. Also, I'm not entirely sure if the current state of snipers is really bad at all. They handled far better in year 1, yet nobody seemed to complain about them. I say don't try to fix a weapon that's not broken, it'd make the game much less fun. I think I've already said that I wouldn't mind an increase in flinch, but any changes to handling or body shot damage should remain unchanged. I guarantee that I can outplay anyone who uses a sniper who claims that snipers are OP if I use a shotgun against them. Anyone who wants to challenge that, I will be more than happy to play in a rumble match with any of you. If I lose, it certainly wouldn't be becaude a sniper was OP. This isn't to sound arrogant either, it's just to prove a point that snipers can be countered very effectively if you know how to.
