I'm not complaining to you at all really, that wasn't how this talk started. I was referring to how misguided and funny it was to say Destiny wouldn't be here without Activision. Their job isn't to allow Destiny to happen...it's to squeeze every last cent they can out of it. Destiny would've still been a complex, popular game without Activision. I'm almost positive of that. If you were arguing it might not have been as [i]profitable[/i] then I agree. And I'll never accept the "it's just business" excuse towards the exclusive practices going on. Because I'll always respond that a business needs loyal and trusting customers, and that consumers have every right to complain (and in doing so are likely to alter policies). Being mute isn't the correct response to injustice..yeah it's "end of story" if the consumer is silent and takes their beating, but if you speak up then it's never completely over.