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Edited by mus:
8/28/2016 3:09:20 PM
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Buff primary weapons
It's time to buff primary weapons. They need to be the best weapons in the game, at this point in the game primaries have been nerfed so many times that you'll be better off running around with a shotgun all game.
Hand canons and auto rifles don't have enough range to challenge any snipers. Weapons (minus hand canons) can't kill fast enough to counter shotgunners (especially in a meta where thunder strike/juggernaut/force barrier are very common). In the next patch some things need to be done about primaries. NO MORE NERFS. We are done with those.
[b][u]-give hand canons back the accuracy they had before 2.0
-give pulse rifles back their damage they had before 2.0
-give auto rifles back their damage they had in vanilla
-scouts may stay the same, they were always inferior to hand hand canons except at long distance. [/u][/b]
Bump if you agree.
Edit: here is what I predict will be nerfed because we all know the word "buff" is not in bungie's dictionary.
-Grasp of Malik archetype damage nerfed to 19 headshot, less range
-Medium impact hand canons bloom mechanic intensified, they're being used too much
-increased control will not provide Titans with significant lateral movement speed anymore, Titans were never meant to be so fast, it's not how we want you to play the game
-blink strike lunge distance nerfed, we find blade dancer had increased usage since the last patch
-the hawksaw archetype of pulse rifles will be removed, all weapons in this archetype will be transformed into the slightly slower firing archetype (nirwens). We thought it wasn't fair that nirwens took the same amount of shots to kill as the hawksaw, but shot slower.
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Add to the list of things Bungie will nerf
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3 RepliesMore balanced than ever.
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3 RepliesWe're walking a fine line between reliable weapons vs point to kill weapons. Yes all shots from a hand cannon should register(speaking on the accuracy) but I would rather have every weapon collectively be weaker than to buff everything to the point that TTK is at yr 1 TLW tier. As for primaries vs specials you just have to be smart and aware. Obviously you're not going to win a hand cannon vs shotgun battle if you're charging at your opponent. Ultimately yes some buffs are needed but imo buffs/nerfs just produce problems with other weapons.
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22 RepliesCurrent meta: Pulse > scouts > autos > HC [spoiler]That is, of course, with a few exceptions for the last two[/spoiler]
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2 RepliesSo, nerf fusion rifles?
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15 RepliesEdited by draycole: 8/29/2016 12:14:39 AMDo you want call of duty times to kill? As of right now every single primary weapon has an optimal time to kill under 1 second With some of the more popular weapons outperforming even that But obviously you're not landing all headshots all the time So it's somewhat slower but even with all bodyshots there's no weapon that takes longer than 1.5 seconds to kill Here educate yourselves https://m.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/4fops1/mercules_massive_breakdown_weapon_stats/
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1 ReplyGit gud with a primary. They're actually quite good if you were to, y'know, use them.
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3 Replies2 words, Power Creep.
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1 ReplyEdited by DOOM 02: 8/29/2016 2:18:26 AMI think the grasp of malok shouldnt 3 bursts...21 damage at the least. never understood why it 3 bursts like a red death but fires quicker.
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Yeah, some buffing needs done. Every type of weapon has 1 archetype that stands above the rest. That shouldn't be.
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Hand cannons and auto rifles weren't made to counter snipers and they should be able to. They're close range weapons.
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9 RepliesI think it should go like this. Remove the bloom from handcannons, and edge up their range a bit. Close to medium range is fine, well and dandy until you consider that they fail on their intended placement. Autos across the board should edge up their damage. They operate the way they're intended, but need a bit of a buff to kinda smooth things over. I'm talking about like... a point or two more damage, nothing extreme. Pulse rifles need to have more defined archetypes. Bring back the Y1 archetypes. Low RoF/high impact like the messenger or Y1 Red death. Two bursts to the head. Low-Medium RoF/High-Medium impact like nirwins mercy or final duty. Two burst with crowd control or reactive reload, 3 under all other circumstances. High-medium/Low-medium impact like the SUROS PDX-45 or Hawksaw, 3 bursts, no change to it. High RoF/low Impact, grasp of Malak, and, for those who remember, oversoul Edict. 3 to 4 burst. Scouts could use a little change, maybe to stability? Mag size? All I know is that they should put MIDA into its real category.
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And nerf Stormcaller melee and damage by a little so it takes four hits instead of three
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Should they make it twitch shooter, like COD where people can 1 shot you from any range -
1 ReplyHold on, there's something else far more important that needs to be done because it's been far too long. Bungie needs to buff [spoiler]the purple ball[/spoiler] again
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2 RepliesAgreed. If Bungie doesn't want to reduce the special ammo spawn, or change the way special ammo is given out, then special and primary need to be rebalanced. Crucible isn't fun anymore. Just a bunch of shotguns.
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3 RepliesIf those nerfs happen in going to kill the weapon designers and take their place Seriously no more nerfs, BUFF INSTEAD Who cares if the game gets too "uncontrollable"? That's how we like it here in destiny
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1 ReplyEdited by Reclaimer: 8/28/2016 10:05:33 PMNo. Lol. Edit: Primaries are not the problem. There's still too much of an abundance of special ammo and nothing will change until they take spawning with it off and reduce the frequency of the drops. People who aren't using primaries are doing so not because they're bad weapons, but because this game's PvP rewards people for ignoring them.
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7 RepliesI just want bloom removed.
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6 Replies[quote]-Grasp of Malik archetype damage nerfed to 19 headshot, less range [/quote] Boo! I hope this doesn't happen. Its my favorite gun. :(
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(∩ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)⊃━☆ﾟ.* Buffus Primaryus!
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[quote]It's time to buff primary weapons. They need to be the best weapons in the game, at this point in the game primaries have been nerfed so many times that you'll be better off running around with a shotgun all game. Hand canons and auto rifles don't have enough range to challenge any snipers. Weapons (minus hand canons) can't kill fast enough to counter shotgunners (especially in a meta where thunder strike/juggernaut/force barrier are very common). In the next patch some things need to be done about primaries. NO MORE NERFS. We are done with those. [b][u]-give hand canons back the accuracy they had before 2.0 -give pulse rifles back their damage they had before 2.0 -give auto rifles back their damage they had in vanilla -scouts may stay the same, they were always inferior to hand hand canons except at long distance. [/u][/b] Bump if you agree. Edit: here is what I predict will be nerfed because we all know the word "buff" is not in bungie's dictionary. -Grasp of Malik archetype damage nerfed to 19 headshot, less range -Medium impact hand canons bloom mechanic intensified, they're being used too much -increased control will not provide Titans with significant lateral movement speed anymore, Titans were never meant to be so fast, it's not how we want you to play the game -blink strike lunge distance nerfed, we find blade dancer had increased usage since the last patch -the hawksaw archetype of pulse rifles will be removed, all weapons in this archetype will be transformed into the slightly slower firing archetype (nirwens). We thought it wasn't fair that nirwens took the same amount of shots to kill as the hawksaw, but shot slower. ........ Add to the list of things Bungie will nerf[/quote] Removing hawksaw archetype is dumb. It will basically kill the Bad Juju. Here's a solution. Since Nirwens is the same archetype of Red Death. Just make the archetype a two burst.
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Bump on the primary buff. DOWN WITH THE SPECIAL WEAPON SUPREMACIST!
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7 RepliesI feel like everybody at Bungie is a PvE player with no idea wtf goes on in the crucible.
