It's time to buff primary weapons. They need to be the best weapons in the game, at this point in the game primaries have been nerfed so many times that you'll be better off running around with a shotgun all game.
Hand canons and auto rifles don't have enough range to challenge any snipers. Weapons (minus hand canons) can't kill fast enough to counter shotgunners (especially in a meta where thunder strike/juggernaut/force barrier are very common). In the next patch some things need to be done about primaries. NO MORE NERFS. We are done with those.
[b][u]-give hand canons back the accuracy they had before 2.0
-give pulse rifles back their damage they had before 2.0
-give auto rifles back their damage they had in vanilla
-scouts may stay the same, they were always inferior to hand hand canons except at long distance. [/u][/b]
Bump if you agree.
Edit: here is what I predict will be nerfed because we all know the word "buff" is not in bungie's dictionary.
-Grasp of Malik archetype damage nerfed to 19 headshot, less range
-Medium impact hand canons bloom mechanic intensified, they're being used too much
-increased control will not provide Titans with significant lateral movement speed anymore, Titans were never meant to be so fast, it's not how we want you to play the game
-blink strike lunge distance nerfed, we find blade dancer had increased usage since the last patch
-the hawksaw archetype of pulse rifles will be removed, all weapons in this archetype will be transformed into the slightly slower firing archetype (nirwens). We thought it wasn't fair that nirwens took the same amount of shots to kill as the hawksaw, but shot slower.
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Add to the list of things Bungie will nerf
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In about 5 weeks after this will be implemented, the same amount of people will ask for nerfs again.....this is going back and forth the whole friggin time...
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Give every primary Small Arms, then change the Small Arms modifier to Smaller Arms.
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If they buffed Autos back to vanilla status, no one would have to use anything else. The low RoF/high impact archetype was killing from Scout Rifle ranges.
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Edit make a poll, but hell ya!
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Nerf all weapons!!!! You should be able to peek a corner and step back without dying instantly. (Except for the no brainers like sniper and such)
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Just no. Actual status of primaries It's good. You have to build a load out with your primary complementing your special of choice. Or the opposite if you want. No way a primary should have an edge over a special in It's optimal range.
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Yes I agree buff the uni remote lol XP joking obviously
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I'm confused. Primaries are meant to be the weakest considering we have unlimited ammo, next is special, then heavy. Primaries are fine just learn how to not walk into a sniper lane or a shotgun blast
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Better off would be pulses before their december nerf
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Just stop whining will you!! Just because you suck with weapons doesn't mean they need a buff. I'm sick of these posts
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So if I understand this correctly, we need to nerf fusions rifles and buff the last word
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Handcannons may need like a .05 accuracy buff i think.
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High impact autos need a tiny buff but that's it.
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Vanilla auto rifles where ridiculous
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Edited by GRABOOZLE: 8/28/2016 6:58:19 AMI'd rather buff primaries that can't compete with other guns of the same type. Med and high impact pulses for example. Med and high impact autos. Low and high impact handcannons. All scouts. I for one am sick of seeing hawksaws, last words, midas, grasps. What's so wrong with having all weapons capable of competing? People might say then it will be like cod. How is this any different? Rather than having 10 guns in each class that are competitive we have 2. #f[i]u[/i]ckmeta
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You're crazy if you think they should buff auto rifles back to what they were during Vanilla. Pulses are in a good place other than high impact ones. Agree on handcannons accuracy.
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Do you really believe that hand canon without any sniper scope and with that short barrel should able to be as accurate as sniper rifle?
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So you think auto rifles and hand canons should be able to challenge snipers at long range? Perfect example of why Bungie shouldn't take balance advice from the community.
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how can a hand cannon challenge a sniper anyway? also why?
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I love it the way it is. Sure it needs some balancing, handcannons and auto rifles aren't usable But I don't want this game to turn into a CoD either
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And shotguns definitely need a consistency buff.
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I totally AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But then fix the (latency) lag/ hit detection, too. So all weapons will be equal. And not that players start shooting the other player with exactly the same weapon and one weapon does almost no damage with 4 bursts and the other player's weapon kills you with 2 bursts.
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Agreed
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Most weapons kill in a second or less. The only ones that need a buff are the slower and medium rate of fire pulse rifles. Some weapons could use base stat boosts, as many are useless without god rolls. I think a lot of it comes from players not using the appropriate loadout for the map or game mode. A lot of players will use one subclass and one loadout for any game mode/map they play. (TLW+sniper noobs)
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Auto Rifles need a stability and damage buff. Pretty useless without braced frame, perfect balance, etc.
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