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8/28/2016 1:01:12 PM
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Well maybe they should nerf ONE more gun before they start buffing, I'm looking at you last "no skill" word.
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It's been nerfed 9 times already, no matter what you do, people will use it because in close quarters, it's a beast.
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It's literally the only gun you can consistently stop shotty rushers with. They start hopping at you expecting to jump through your primary fire and get melted, scrub death
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Exactly. It's the [i]only[/i] one. Btw a TLW user is in no place to call a shotgunner a scrub for obvious reasons. 2 scummiest weapons in this game, Universal and TLW.
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To me, the most scrubby thing a player can do is hop around with bones or skate and shotgun. There is zero exchange of gun play, tlw stops this from happening. And if you don't want to exchange with a tlw player, sit outside of its range and primary. The people who are upset with tlw are likely the ones jumping around trying to shotgun you from the ceiling.
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Fusion Rifle user here frustrated at how TLW is a perfect weapon for every sniper user.
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It has been nerved 9 times what more do you want it takes skill unlike universal
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Its been nerfes like 8 times!!! It literally doesnt have an exotic perk anymore! Because of nerfs. It can no longer do what it was made to do because of people crying nerf. Its more accurate ads then hipfire on the weapon that was supposed to be only hipfire. And whats funny is that after that last nerf making ads more accurate its so much better and so much easier to use then before. Its an amazing gun instead of trying to have it removed from the game how about we bring weapon ttk up so that they can compete more evenly with it. Weapons like grasp of malok already can same with doctrine. Now lets Balance out the ttk. Look at bf4. 97% of the weapons in there had the exact same ttk. Didnt matter what you used you could stop an shotgunner you could juke snipers you could take down an smg with a dmr and demolish and lmg with a carbine. Because it was about player skill not who was using the gun with the best kill time. This is why call of duty is dead to me. It might as well just be called rapid fire smg spam. They need to even out kill times to balance the weapons.
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It's already been nerfed to the ground and removed the best part of the perk Just because a gun beats u doesn't make it op
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just like viking funeral. in the patch notes when it was changed. bungie said it was changed to stop fustrating encounters. meaning bungie didn't have a actual reason to change it, they only did it because people wouldnt stop complaining. but either way its a great pve perk now. but radiant skin could use a pve buff imo.
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Hmm never said it was op, also nerf to the ground means what they did to mrof pulse rifles (red death archetype ) you just don't see them, last word is the strongest handcannon in the game though, it shouldn't be able to out gun me when I have the first curse at medium range and I have to pace my shots because of Phantom bullets and they don't. It's no secret high rate of fire primaries are better, look at pulse rifles, autorifles, and the only full auto handcannon
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I hate that bloody weapon so much. I can run around and easily dominate everyone. However, it's just well designed for close quarters engagements. The only thing they could really do is decrease a bit of impact.
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Its more balanced then when it had its bonus headshot damage hip firing
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Last word is fine [spoiler]triggered.[/spoiler]
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Last word is a monster but it's harder to use than you think. Stop crying
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I have to agree. I tried it out and I honestly felt like I did better using my other Hand Cannons. It seems that if you really like Hand Cannons you fall into one of two camps with the Exotic Tex Mechanica Hand Cannons (The Last Word or The First Curse). I'm more of a First Curse user. Maybe if I take some time to get used to TLW again I might feel differently, or I might just be better off switching back to Thorn in year 3.
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It's actually easier to use than you say, it is the only full auto handcannon and is effected less by bloom, also bloom all together can be ignored completely if you shoot from the hip. That gun has never been bad. I don't use the last word , but when I do I put it away because why would I use a crutch when I got 2 working feet?
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Dude, are you actually mentally handicapped? Bloom is meant to affect hand cannons based on rate of fire and range... It effects the last word the harshest. Get out of here with your BS salt. The gun has always been one of the more difficult ones to use other than when in its intended range. It is not the best hand cannon in the game. Right now eyasaluna is. It has the most range and therefore is effected by bloom the least. I'll bet you think mida is completely balanced too.
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Lol even for a person who doesn't use last word I know more about it that you do, because of the fanfire perk even if you tap the trigger it still fires faster than all and sense you're not holding the trigger down you're not using it at its fastest fire rate, hence bloom doesn't affect it as much, also the increased aim assist and accuracy from the hip literally gives it less kick and throws Phantom bullets out the window. Now shush.
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Edited by AchillesLapsus: 8/28/2016 3:31:49 PMUse it then. The nerf to hip fire accuracy on hand cannons makes its perk near negligible. It isn't anywhere near as reliable as it once was. And because you don't use it, you actually have no clue what you're talking about. Even pulling the trigger then gun still suffers just as much as other hand cannons if not still more due to its lack of range. Now please, step aside and eat your own words.
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I do use it , but very rarley. I don't need it like you. It literally kicks less when shooting from the hip then ads. Stop trying to defend your crutch man, saying something is bad when it's obviously good makes you pathetic, agian hush, let the adults have thier conversation.
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Everyone in this thread disagrees with you... And what crutch? I have a higher kdr than you and more kills with more weapon types excluding scouts because I find them highly boring. I find the last word to be more fun to use than all the other guns. And just because the gun is more stable while firing from the hip does not make it more accurate. It's still Hip fire. They still nerfed hand cannon accuracy harshly. Please, try again.
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Psst wanna know why you have a higher kdr....last "no skill " word, and not everybody disagrees. Do you just like to make stuff up as you go?
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Learn to read dude. The only one making stuff up is you. Clearly you have no skill with the last word. That's the only reason I can think of why you would dislike it so much. Btw, I have 50k kills in the crucible. Spoiler: they aren't all with the last word. I use other primaries. You may be surprised to hear this but it isn't actually a god gun and not the best option on every map.
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Yah done yet? You done defending a top 3 most used gun since the launch of the game and calling balanced? Also looked at your stats, you should be ashamed of how many last word kills you have, you have no right to talk
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Haha, ashamed? I'm proud. It isn't balanced. Right now it's unbalanced. Hand cannons, especially the last word, are in a pathetic place. The gun has been overly nerfed and the only thing saving it from being shelled by the entire populace... Because it isn't the most used hand cannon right now... Once again, it's eyasaluna, is its fire rate and reload speed. And I'd say my use of it enables me much of a right to talk about its current state than someone who hardly ever uses the damn thing. I mean are you done trying, and failing mind you, to say that it's an over powered weapon in need of even further nerfs? If anyone should be ashamed it's you.
