Thank you for sharing. Reading this just reaffirms my belief that SBMM is working and that people with different skill levels who play together in pvp will not have an enjoyable experience. Bungie mentioned that they try to keep all players at a 50:50 win/loss ratio and an even 1.00 KD. So your friend #2 was doing so well with you guys and on his own that he moved up and he has to do crap and lose A LOT to get back down to you and your female friend's skill level. It's BS. They're segregating players pretty much. If you all play together, no one would have fun.