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I made a new PS account a few months ago, to play around and have some fun with, but also to see where my "skill level" was at, compared to "lower skilled" players. I go straight into the crucible at rank 3 with the white Calcutta sniper and white handcannon (the first stuff the hunter gets) and no heavy, not unlocked yet and offcourse an totally un-upgraded subclass. My first 5 games i completely wrecked the opposition who had better weapons (legendaries etc) and most of them where around level 20-30. After a few more games i started to get matched up with level 40 players with fully maxed exotic weapons armour etc, and by my 10'th game in total my Kd was now around 1.6 - 2.0 (mostly because i was playing in a lower skilled pool then i am used to, my main Kd not even great btw, like 1.12) and i was now matching up with fully leveled sweaty players!! I even got matched up with a friend of mine (on my friends list on my main acc) which i KNOW FOR A FACT is a good player.. Its redicilous, here i am with my white weapons, level 15 or whatnot, getting constantly matched up against sweaties whit shottys, last words and the whole shabangabang!! Like give me a break, my character is obviously not ready for that, just because my Kd was good, my loadout and un-upgraded subclass is not ready for that after like 10 games of crucible.. This to me is the biggest proof of why SBMM is COMPLETELY AIDS and should be removed..
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  • Same. I just started a hunter. I'm awful at pvp but i'm playing against people who don't have hands. Level 7 just annihilating level 40s left and right. Just brutal. Then back to warlock/titan and getting pubstomped 99.99t of my matches.

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  • I got same experience but to play (hypothetical) the devil's advocate... The system might have thought that I was actually that good with my new account. In other words kd is just a number and the SBMM is just an equation...

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    Thats kinda my point. Because i did good from the get go, the game thinks i am that "good" and quickly ups me in the ranking system (SBMM), even tho i was clearly not ready for it level/weapon, or even skill wise. I mean, how fun is it for a new player to be thrown into the deep side of the pool before he really can swim? Sure he made it out there but is now drowning with no way of making it back to shore.. LOL, might not be the best comparison but the point stays the same :D

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  • Couldn't have said it better! However, I think if you are good as a new starter then it is because you are really good. I played with someone who was a natural COD and MW, BF sniping camper and he was so natural in PvP camping in Destiny in Y1 in his first match that I just couldn't believe most of the things I saw. He started Destiny in July 15 and randomly got the Thorn bounty on his hunter. It took him mere 3-4 crucible matches to complete it with a rare void sniper all while camping. I know that y1 match making was different but if you are skilled, it makes a difference. Thorn bounty on hunter was slowest as there were no void ability kills back then. SBMM just makes it an algorithm and although this dude quit Destiny but I am sure in new world, he would be a good fight in some map like Pantheon. I agree with your point that new players will have a struggle but it's very difficult to differentiate between experienced and skills player or new comers who are really skilled and I don't want Bungie to match me based on number of hours I have put in this game! :)

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  • I did the exact same thing. I had 1-2 games of playing opponents with no thumbs. Dropping 30+ kills games with 5.0 or so KD. NEXT MINUTE I'm playing the same guys I play on my main account. But with blue and green gear vs fully meta 335 top tier players. I actually feel sorry for any new player who is half decent at PvP.

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    Yes, my point/experience exactly! They say SBMM is to help "lower skilled" and new players, but i tell you that any new player that has some skill, will be very fast at a BIG disadvantage with this system. And that is not good for new players at all.

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