This idea that Bungie is some small entity with a few programmers on hand that can take a holiday break in the middle of a huge push and launch is just... It's idle fantasy. They may be over worked, but they are there. They have a AAA launch in a two weeks, they're peeing into taco Bell cup's at their desks. The game was designed to operate across a variety of databases. That's why they chose to rely heavily on netcode. for authentication, and cheat protection. Sony/Microsoft handle The authentication. They provide static acess on two sides of the portal PS3/PS4(and so on). Bungie holds the character progression data in the middle, there's also a copy stored locally on the consoles. It used to be that you log on from your console, (the doormat), it takes your console info (gamer tag/key) and brings back part of the file that makesyou character work essentially(unlocks progress). The game was designed to seemslessly allow users on both gens to progress. Hop on one console play with your friends, hop on old console play with those who couldn't upgrade. Still gain progress and word of mouth how great is ps4. EASY to upgrade. UNTIL Sony, Microsoft, Bungie, or Activision...or all of them decided that there needs to be a push to get people off the ps3/360 because it is enduring far better than they anticipated. The hardware is solid, cheap, people pay a lot for it so they pass it on or just grow very fond. So they broke apart their stable system. Now the ps3/360 is very, very stable in terms of this type of database security because it relies solely on Sony, But the ps4/xbone have built in security, built right into the chip. It was fine when the game was running as it was supposed to. As it was designed to. However it has been essentially separated from half its database, so the feature which used to allow users to switch back and forth while keeping their progress on Both is now showing up on the ps4/ Xbox one side as { =0} for those who didn't already have a new, or perhaps because it only ever had a limited amount of users that could show up on only one side and then only the other with out triggering a total lock out because the system thinks all these accounts are faked clones, or it's hit its upper limit because databases limits (in certain cases) are procudure driven to have bounds ( so as to not grow unwieldy and slow with erroneousy, corrupted, or harmful data). including sets (other databases) generally proportionally expands a databases ability to take in entry(IE direct growth). Thats what you want to take In Users from the previous gen while simultaneously taking in new users. Excluding previous set then inversely effects the next gen creating a hard boundary for people tryimg to import. It simply got filled at about the time the error started which is why some importing after the 16th were ok. So the problem as I deduce is, they are in the middle of a launch. Not even fully done with ROI. They need a full team of specialists, on all ends, so they can "manually" import and reset the authentication on the ps4/Xbox side and import(in fact create) all the Bungie related save data... What worries me is that perhaps some bean counters have done some kind of cost analysis that shows this will only effect X amount of people out of a total population of V. We have Y amount of preorders(and projected month one sales). It costs Z to fix X's problem and Z > (X/V)*Y... So they are just stalling and hushing this while they seek customers through free trials on xbone to replace X(us), when they us give the news that our characters are lost, and if we want to keep playing we need to register our tag and start a new... And we internet riot all over there ROI launch. Im hoping I'm wrong. Praying this is justvmy mind spinning yarns. I have never seen a company stall this bad unless they had very bad news and they were scrambling to soften the blow or cover their asses. Because in age of the internet I don't care what the bean counters think, screwing 1500+ people out of money and time fosters a lot of Ill will, and they are on the edge with ROI. Bungie needes it prove that destiny is the game they promised. 10 years of asses planted in the seats. That's why theres no news. The problem isn't how do we fix TSPIR. The problem is how do they get ROI out with out a YouTube campaign spearheaded by Adam Baldwin and thousand or two of its (very vocal) (ex)fans... But if they'd just give update with idk, look the problem is complicated, we have the info. Those who are effected, get a few exotics, 50 coins, 15 legacy marks, 1500 glimer and our apologies and possibly a should be ok by xx/xx/xxxx. They'd nip this in the bud. As it is, it's leaking out over Twitter, Facebook. With more people upgrading still X is growing large enough to cut (X^2) users from buying ROI.
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Actually the 360/PS3 are getting to the point wher they can barely handle games I mean look at bo3 it's a constant kick out and freezing compared to the Xbox one/ps4 they fine
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I'm not disagreeing with you about the ps3/360 elder age showing. I have been rocking a PC I have built for a while. In fact I kind of started just going through my back log recently and then I bought destiny on a whim. What surprised me is how active the player base is. Not saying it's like the hayday. Its more like... A strange wild west. In any case it's not dead. Certainly not as dead as thought it'd be. So I think that's a bit of a problem for console makers at this point. Not that the console itself is more advanced. I mean the embedes security in the APU is a huge leap forward in many ways, but it's an exotic one and the security of the previous gen was a bit more plain Jane... I guess I was say i think that's where the problem lay. Idk if this makes any sense.
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TakenADEPTBlueberryDAD
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It's called lack of interest in old platform systems when it comes to updating new content... New content usually made with new game engines which to use updated engines might have a bad effect on old engine systems aka compatibility errors... So the question is could the new game engines not been used till destiny 2 is what upset many... I think his rant was more of a rant saying this is effecting the problem and might lose our progress in this so called fix... He then adds he hope he's just over thinking how the systems work... Idk if destiny used this system or what I assumed was a third party system that just applied to these credentials as well to cross platform maybe built in the game engine like how some older model engines work.. regardless if the scripts are debugged regarding the account import screen this would be fixed since its obviously related to it... Maybe they need to allow ps3 and 360 a little longer to make an end date rapidly approached for ending an account import instead... I find it kinda amusing destiny got it's foot in its mouth since I felt screwed over for a long time by this them as a year one players... Sadly were the only ones suffering though in waiting... Why can't there be extra support for this though from such a large business... I get they have rushed time lines and the priorities aren't in order but when you screw a paying customer before they can even log in for over a week is a statement js... I mean offer a skip button maybe I want to start from scratch lol and at least I could be playing right now lol so I say as a temp fix offer a skip import till it's resolved for those that rather start over than wait maybe like triangle or square for PlayStation as an example ... Still can be irreversible but this gives them room to say you have options while we are trying to fit this issue in with other last minute issues... But it's not the servers just not accepting it others are playing just fine its import related and and the possibility of it maybe trying to duplicate is good feedback for bungie as well since no one has a secure way to help debug issues in forums yet protects from outside corruption... So anyone giving potential realistic possibilities i praise them I'm more than impatient on day 7 -
Lol what I do to stop my internet rant is play Destiny... Sorry the length and relative incoherent manner of rambling :)
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TakenADEPTBlueberryDAD
T3k@N @€3P+ 🔵 DAD - old
Sounds good lol maybe when destiny quits finger popping each others assholes we will get to play some destiny...