PvP... we all know how bad it's gotten. So I'll just jump right in. [quote][/quote] The last time I played PvP was Iron Banana almost 3 events ago! I'm a PvE player mind you. So first off, the nerfs and connections are pretty damn bad. Was in Salvage (only because my friend was trying to increase his wins) and it was going pretty well. Winning a good amount and losing a good amount. Then after a few matches I decided to pull out my Thorn. Why? No clue. Maybe I was missing the good ol' days pre nerf. I then was a 315 Light Level Titan. The matches that followed my Thorn equip was when things got worse. Getting matched up against teams of 335 while my friend (335) and I were getting a a teammate that never was higher than 315. Not only that but the connection and red bar mess from the other team made it suck so much. You're probably thinking, OH, THEN WHY DO CBMM WHEN THIS LOOKS TO BE LIKE SBMM? Know what? I have no clue. I just know that I prefer CBMM > SBMM. [quote][/quote] Anyway, we won a few from there but the connections were garbage. Thorn was nice to use for that nostalgic feel but honestly, the weapon is pure shit now. Can't imagine it in Y3. Only change is Light Level which will still mean the gun is shit. [quote][/quote] My overall experience of PvP: not great. Before and after I equipped Thorn. Now, this isn't a THORN thread... just saying which I used. MIDA to Thorn. People were using HC every match. Wanted to change it up. [quote][/quote] Like I've said, I'm a PvE player. I don't get super salty. Just annoying with the nerfs and connection that suck in PvP. Just not fun. Thought Private Matches would be a game changer, but they're not. Only there for grinding out those wins for Grimoire.