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Edited by Kone19ps: 11/7/2016 8:05:05 PM
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I feel lied to on strike Skeleton keys

Edit 3 Experience and Conclusion: ran 15 strikes in a row Saturday for the exotic faction class item quest and got two keys. Compared to the 3-6 per week since release individually for the most part where I got none. From this the vanguard streak bonus seems to heavily affect drop rates of keys. This is incredibly inconvenient for a player like me that rarely does more than one strike at a time. Staying in strikes should be rewarded but at this drop rate single strikes are heavily punished. Original: Bungie when you told us you were implementing strike chests to make getting strike specific loot easier I praised you and supported the decision. Now I regret every positive thing I said about it. This system is now even worse. Before sure it was random but I could farm a nightfall a few times and probably get something. Or at least a chance. Now I have no chance until I get a key which you've made the drop rates worse for than the strike loot to begin with. You've done this misleading so much now and you wonder why people are always ripping on this game. Be honest for once or at least acknowledge this problem. Sure [b]if[/b] you get a key it's more reliable to get. Operative word being [b]if[/b]. All you did was displace the rng from loot to keys and loot is still rng. I can play whatever strike for that chance instead of the same one over and over which is nice, but after two years of strikes I do not want to grind them anymore. Regardless of variety. Maybe if you hadn't had so few viable at a time I wouldn't be so burnt out. Nightfall at least should give you one a week. Because this system like many others in the game no longer encourages me to grind it encourages me to stop playing because why bother rolling dice on limited time. Honestly at this point if I finally do get another key, play flayers, and get another damn tread upon stars instead of a cloak that'll probably be the start of a long break from destiny. And I have heard from some that they are staying rare because it's end game light. Fine take that away make it 390 like factions I don't care about light I want the cosmetics. I've wanted them for over a year and the time you seem to expect that to require is absurd. You know what happens when I finally get it? I won't be celebrating. Same thing as ghorn in year one. I'll just be salty, won't care anymore, and be long past appreciation for it because you made the grind and repetition so long it's drained away all my enthusiasm. Edit: release the drop rate and give us an explanation because as far as I'm concerned I've been blatantly lied to. If it is "easier" on paper I can't imagine it's more than a percent or two higher strike reward rate. Especially for the casual player with limited time. Skeleton keys have actually made it take much longer to get desired gear from the key requirement Edit 2: I very much want there to be multiple routes to max light but if max light from chests is the reason the keys are rare. I'd take that hit to get the gear. I don't want to impose that view though, but since everyone seems to care about light anything that provides that will be overly limited. So the best solution to me is still one a week per account for nightfall. Then I may actually do a nightfall for the first time in months

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  • Can I provide you a medicaded wipe to wipe the sand out your cryhole?

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  • Edited after weekend testing

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  • It seems to me that Bungie was sad because people farmed omnigul and discovered how broken high rate of fire pulse rifles were and are. So should they balance it? NO! That's crazy! Let's put good weapons and armor behind a gate that's difficult and frustrating to climb! Balance and logic? No thanks if you want those play something else.

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    • My personal experience, and I understand everyone's is different. I went on a bender this weekend of grinding for a decent Imago Loop, since I'm a hand cannon afficianado and I've never had a good one to try out. So I hopped in the 320 strike list (where key drops are more common) and ground until I got a key, which was about 4 strikes / 40 minutes. Dropped out, and went to the Undying Mind 320 strike, ran it, popped the chest. Behold an Imago Loop, with a so-so roll of smallbore and Icarus. Did it again, this time it took 5 strikes to get a key. Mark of the Undying mind. Back to the strike list. First strike was 320 undying Mind, got a key. Got a trash Imago. Do another 5 strikes, get a key, got another MotUM. So I'm averaging a key about every 4-7 strikes, and a Loop about 50% of the time, with the class item occurring a tiny bit too frequently for my liking, but still acceptable. I also remember grinding for a Grasp last year, and getting one about every 20 strikes or so, without using the cheat method. Given that, I'll take the Key system over the blind grind. It doesn't seem as beneficial, and makes the grind feel even grindier. But in my experience thus far, it also seems to give me about double the chance at getting the strike specific item I want, plus gives me the added benefit of not having to run the same strike for 3 hours at a time for a single drop.

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      • I STILL have not received a skeleton key in about 20 strikes. My Titan has only had boots drop (once) since hard raid release I spent nearly $100 on silver and don't have the ghost ghost 16 three of coins, 1 exotic Ohh.. What do legendary marks do? Vanguard / crucible reputation boosters.. LOL. I doubt anyone is in a rush to get another reskinned 390 Ohhhh scumgie, the mediocrity with you is so real. Bumgie should stick to visuals & sounds, because their college intern employees are shitty @ everything else. What's destiny about at this point? I think they're improvising and winging additional story each dlc

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        • 5 or 6 keys used in pogoth or sepiks and still no devil's down. Rng hates me

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          • Oh we ,were all lied to,and the lie that is festival of the lost.

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          • Are you really surprised at this point about bungie lying to us!?

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            • I used three skeleton keys and I have yet to receive an grasp of malok.

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              • "You know what happens when I finally get it? I won't be celebrating. Same thing as ghorn in year one. I'll just be salty, won't care anymore, and be long past appreciation for it because you made the grind and repetition so long it's drained away all my enthusiasm." This is exactly what happened when I finally got an Imago Loop. I don't even play strikes anymore. The keys are a huge fail.

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                • [quote]This system is now even worse. Before sure it was random but I could farm a nightfall a few times and probably get something. Or at least a chance. Now I have no chance until I get a key which you've made the drop rates worse for than the strike loot to begin with. [/quote] Would just like to point out you still have the same chance of the strike specific dropping, but you also have the skeleton keys. Don't get me wrong, keys as a nightfall reward would be awesome.

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                  • I only do one heroic strike a week just for the treasure box. Sometimes I do the nightfall for infusion material but not always. To me strikes are a thing of the past.

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                    • The other issue is that you can not transfer keys to or from Characters except in person, or you get the message: Items of this type can only be transferred in-game. I know, we're bummed about it too. So quit being bummed about it and allow us to move them around! Same goes for Sigils too.

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                      • Transparency is not Bungie's strong suit...

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                      • How is it not easier than before? Before your chances of getting a grasp of malok were basically none unless you exploited andfarmed the strike. Now you can get one key go there and get one in a day THE PROBLEM IS YOU WHINERS LOOK AT SKELETON KEYS SOLELY AS LIGHT LEVEL UPGRADES.

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                        • I agree 100%, once all of my backup gear is at 400, I was going to farm for a fb 2.0 imago loop, but with how bad the drop rate is on the keys, I might just take a break until the April update.

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                          • Never had an issue with the drop rate of key's. My guess is you guys are farming the strike playlist and odds are it's on a timer so as to ensure you get the rewards, but the rewards themselves are not supposed to be had on minute timers or even hour timers... But if it's an issue, a patch will be administered and there's more then a few ways to supplement those rewards in crucible if you like that...

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                            • This is not new dude they keep doing bs like this all the time. They did the same crap with poe keys. Bungievision is a messed up company with foul business/marketing tactics. They only care about how much money the can squeeze out of you. Why have rng on stuff u buy from eververse? I dont even bother to buy those rnf based bullshit packages. I do buy emotes from time to time but i stay far away from those rng based packages that tess sells.

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                              • I'm a casual and I think the drop rate is fine. What's the rush for max light? Is there something you can't do in this game unless you're 400?

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                                • Im getting less strike specific loot because of this system for some reason

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                                • Edited by Yes I Make Puns: 11/1/2016 7:44:06 PM
                                  I haven't played a ton recently but I farm my keys on the 320 strikes... that's worked for me but I dunno. It's rigged. For real. Before, drops were all up to RNG. Now, the skeleton key is up to RNG and so is the loot you get from the chest. That's 2x the RNG for the same drops! They pretend to streamline the loot collecting process, but make it even more of a grind. (and that's not to say the RNG related to the stats on the weapons/armor that drops too... it's literally one huge RNG chain lmao) gg bungie sure got us this time

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                                  • Nice post, don't play anymore hardly because of that. Sick of seeing same strike, no key. Grinding shit is over and boring, back to PC gaming for awhile. PS- 3 more NItefalls, keyless and shithead coins, joke on us

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                                  • We hardly ever got end strike specific loot pre-ROI. The drop rate for the keys is probably the same. The advantage is when your character is over 390 you can target a lower light piece of gear using a specific strike. I have gotten both a strike key and an exotic drop at the end of the same strike before.

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                                    • System concept good, drop rate bad. Kinda like how infusion was at the beginning. Personally, I think a guaranteed key from NF each week is too high, it would make sense that the rate should be just a little lower than strike-specific loot used to be, which seemed like about 20% on NF and probably half that on heroics. So maybe 15% and 5%. I could live with that.

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                                      • I really don't care for strikes anymore TBH. I've obtained most of the strike specific loot anyways. But the drop rates for keys is deplorable. I've only gotten 4-5 since ROI came out. 3 times, on the reskinned strikes, I got Devils Dawn in arc, void and solar. Two times I used it on the Undying Mind strike trying to GET an Imago Loop and, both times, Titan mark.

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