The visible curvature seen in [url=http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/U-2-Dragon-Lady1.jpg]the above picture[/url] DOES NOT demonstrate that earth is round. These pictures taken from the cockpit of high altitude aircraft (pictures from NASA space craft are fake) represent the extreme upper limit of man's ability to travel so far. Here is why they do NOT reinforce the ball model of the earth: Vanishing Point + Atmosphere = distance obscured. It is the same principle at work when ships disappear or reappear on the horizon. Let me unpack this a bit...
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanishing_point]Vanishing Point[/url] is a principle of perspective used in art. [url=http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/img/fig75.jpg]But as this image illustrates[/url], the limitations of human perception cause vanishing point to occur at a finite distance from the observer. [url=http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/img/fig83.jpg]Here is an illustration of how it works with ships on the horizon.[/url] Simply put: humans cant see outward forever. Our senses are limited both by our anatomy [i]and[/i] natural factors such as the density of the atmosphere. [b]So how does this apply to high altitude pictures of the horizon where atmosphere is almost non existent?[/b]
Great question. But remember: just because you are [i]above[/i] the atmosphere, does not mean that there is not still a great deal of atmosphere below you. When you look out from the cockpit of a high flying plane, [i]the curvature you see is the curvature of the disk of the earth[/i]. [b]But the visible curve IS NOT THE ACTUAL EDGE[/b]. The earth is still physically stretching out beneath you for great distances, but the density of the atmosphere [b][u]below you[/u][/b] as well as the effects of [b][u]vanishing point[/u][/b] obscure the rest of the disk of the earth from view. [i]Note the hazy glare at the edge of earth in every one of these pictures: that's a huge part of the effect I'm talking about.[/i] [b]ATMOSPHERE + VANISHING POINT = DISTANCE OBSCURED TO THE VIEWER[/b]
Tl;dr
Although high altitude pictures of the earth are true, the visible curve is not the curvature of a spherical earth: it is caused by the atmosphere and principles of perception obscuring the rest of the disk from view.
Edit: Thanks for the good responses. I am busy with school, but I'll try to respond to all of you as I find the time... Thanks for discussing!
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[quote]atmo[b]sphere[/b][/quote] I rest my case.
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Your right, the earth is not round. It's an oblate spheroid
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In all sincerity, you are the best troll I've ever seen.
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I'm bored and I'll bite. How does the moon rotate around a flat object? How thick is the earth? Do you know anyone who has seen the edge? Why don't the oceans spill out into space? Do we live on "top"? What's on the bottom? China? Is that why you can dig a hole there? I have many more questions.
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1 word, satellites. Checkmate atheist
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> When your entire argument is defeated by a picture and your own title Nice try though m8
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Edited by fangfireskull: 12/1/2016 2:25:40 PMYou know what? Im bored so I'll bite. If there is a "vanishing point" then how come we can still see the moon, stars, the sun, and sometimes satellites? I'm pretty sure at least most of those are farther away than another continent. What about telescopes? Why can't we see other counties but can see other planets? I'm not talking about high tech telescopes, they could see Neptune in ye olden times and you still can today.
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Who wants to start a crowdfunding campaign to send him to space to see that the earth is round?
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Reported for explicit stupidity. You have a lower iq than Soupcan Harry
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It's a square.
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Edited by AstroSloth: 12/1/2016 5:48:54 AM*sigh* ok, Krishna, I have one more query for you then I'll let you live on your little flat disc without me trying to make you prove yourself. [spoiler]with the exception of something I deem necessary to prove one way or the other that most others may not be able to do themselves [/spoiler][spoiler]I'll ask once you reply so I know I have your attention[/spoiler]
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Tl;dr But the pic looks pretty round to me?!?
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I'm beginning to doubt that OP is a troll
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Shut up
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See i never understand this crap. If the earth is flat, when we would move to the ends, wouldnt it be impossible to go over it because gravity pulls us to the center? Then why is the land of the earth spread out and not moving in towards the middle of the earth. [spoiler]im guessing you dont believe in gravity.[/spoiler]
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Back at it again with the troll posts I see.
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[quote] (pictures from NASA space craft are fake) [/quote] I...how the -blam!- are you so fuc[b]k[/b]ing stupid. Dear lord. Let this be dedicated b8
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Edited by Duolingo, Kell of Spanish: 11/30/2016 11:35:32 PMIm sure somehow you are wrong anything orbiting the earth will see a vanishing point Unless your some sort of god but last time I checked nobody is so let me tell you this: first point: From what we can see and know, the star that we orbit aka our sun is a spherical ball of hydrogen converting it into helium. Second point: Why would earth be flat if all the other planets are not? If it was how come we can keep travelling and always eventually end up where we started? Third point: Astroids are influenced by a planet/star's gravitational force, travelling at such an alarming rate surely it wouldnt curve right? Well I dont know if you have seen a comet/meteor hit but when they break a planets atmosphere the first thing they do is curve and land in one place (often scattering in multiple peices) if the earth was flat no matter its gravatational pull wouldnt it carry on "going off the edge"? Fourth point: Logic.... you need it fifth point: If we were flat how come we have hemispheres... you know those things that every continent is on [spoiler]west hemisphere, north hemisphere, South hemisphere, East hemisphere[/spoiler] last time I checked if it wasnt for the earth being spherical we wouldnt even know direction [spoiler]fact: there is absolutly no direction in space as there is no way to tell from north and south or if you are up or down Try and prove my points wrong Here is a riddle too you are in a circular room, sit in a corner[/spoiler]
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If it is flat there must be an edge? If you cannot prove there is an edge you cannot disprove that there is not an edge..... so in the wise words of the internet pics or it didn't happen
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I swear to god, someone could literally fly you into space and you'd still pull something out your ass to "disprove" it
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And this is what happens when you drop your baby on their head
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You're not answering my question. If gravity doesn't exist how are we staying grounded?
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What if inexplicable you were cast of into rocket ship, for a trio into space?
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Is the moon and sun flat ?
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This again?
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There are theories that the earth is not round/spherical. That its actually like a deflated ball, flat spots and very irregular. They actually went as far as to say the pictures in our science books are photoshopped to look spherical. Why do you think?