I'm pretty sure you had to get those out of the hard raid, and the normal only gave you shards/energy. I did this pretty recently (well, a couple months prior to launch of RoI) in order to get an Oversoul Edict to use in PVP. I could be wrong on this, but I was pretty sure that this was the case. If you can get them in the normal, I don't ever recall actually getting them in the normal.