originally posted in:The Ashen Conflux
Greetings Guardians, today I am bringing you a theory about the new Taniks Perfected strike. In the lore community, the Taken King and Dawning reprised strikes are generally regarded are non-canon, due to their lore-breaking and contradictory nature. But of the three new strikes added in The Dawning, Taniks Perfected is the most plausible, and that’s why we’re going to be looking closer at the way it could fit into the lore.
First though, a little background on Taniks. Taniks, the Scarred is a Fallen mercenary who isn’t loyal to any house. While not confirmed, it is theorized that Taniks was once part of the dissolved House of Scar. Once, a Kell docked Taniks by cutting off his arms. Taniks built new arms and killed the Kell with them. This was the beginning of Taniks self-experimentation. In the time that followed, Taniks would replace nearly his entire body with robotic ones, including his heart and lungs. He believed that by becoming machine, he was becoming basically a demigod. It was this belief that later led to the formation of the splinter Fallen House known as the Devil Splicers.
However, Taniks was not wholly machine. Like Aksis, he retained his Eliksnicity with his knowledge of Fallen rituals, titles, and challenges. His body may have been machine, but his mind was not.
Taniks was hired by the Fallen House of Wolves to infiltrate the Hellmouth with Wolf forces and steal dark Hive magics so the Fallen could use them as well. A Guardian fireteam infiltrated Wolfship Kaliks-syn and put an end to Taniks once and for all.
Or so we thought.
[quote]Satellite sensors confirm your termination of Taniks. Yet a strange signal began to broadcast from there after you left." —Petra (House of Wolves Shadow Thief quest)[/quote]
I believe that moments before his death, Taniks managed to somehow transmit his mind and consciousness into the Fallen Ketch. Interesting enough, we see mention of this strange signal again, much later. [quote] Ghost: “Strange. I’m picking up a Fallen distress beacon.”
Variks: “Guardian. This is Variks. Detected signal. Detected you. Ketch out of Fallen hands. Watch your back.” (Lost to Light alternate ending dialogue)[/quote] Hmm. The Ketch is out of Fallen hands, yet a strange signal is broadcasting from it anyways… how could this be?
Much later, the Devil Splicers invade the again derelict Ketch. Using SIVA, they create a new body for Taniks, the Scarred. Taniks transfers his consciousness into the new body and, out gratitude for the Splicers and because they share the same beliefs, he joins their ranks. What happens after that? Well, you’ve all played the reprised strike. We storm Kaliks-syn again and put an end to the reborn mercenary. At least, hopefully we did.
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And we got no Icebreaker for it this week :/
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Eliksnicity E-licks-ne-se-tee Shit
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Edited by Maggot_McGirt: 12/17/2016 6:33:18 PMMy issue with all this revamping strikes is that if we kill omnigul and she can undo her death, why not crota or oryx? If nexus mind can be rebuilt and continue its job, why not atheon? I'm not complaining of new strikes at all. I've enjoyed all of them and glad the playlist has variety now. But lore wise, what's the point if all our enemies can just come back in an instant?
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Uhhhh, probably because in SIVA all things are possible.
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Well, siva brought sepiks back, why not taniks? And the vex can travel through time. They don't see time in a straight line as us, even with the restorative mind destroyed, who's to say they don't have more or didn't grab a new nexus from an alternate timeline. Even the bald chick said something about the vex messing with time and if they caused the collapse and shit. With the above true, they would also be vulnerable to being taken. If the nexus knows it was destroyed, it could be taken by being offered and upgrade, which you see in the taken version of the strike. I get was your saying about strikes, but given vex time travel, and undead and reality warping capabilities of the hive. They would be most suitable for repeated runs of strikes. Or raids even.
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I sometimes feel like #lore is a place where destiny fans can exercise some major mental gymnastics to compensate for the crappy recycling methods and mediocre writing
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Perfected??? Lmao.
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But I thought that the splicers were stopped/unable to leave the planet? That splicer intel relay for patrol detailed that we had to stop that ketch from leaving earth and going elsewhere, and when we did, we kept them on earth.
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I will never die! :)
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Greetings guardians, my name is byf here. [spoiler]sorry[/spoiler]
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The strikes aren't really "new"
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Taniks perfected and why it's possible Because siva, why the f not
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Taniks has no house, he kneels before no banner, owes allegiance to no Kell. He is a murderer, and very good at what he does. I have been tracking him since Wolves broke their chains, yes? Now Taniks works for Wolfpack, but not for long...
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The lore in this game is plagued with plot holes. Going out of your way to convince yourself otherwise is just silly.
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Lol, too drink to make a coherent post, but you lot make the story to fit with bungies sad attempt
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Taniks Perfected and Why It's Pssible [spoiler]its not[/spoiler]
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I hate how they got lazy with the siva design of him though. It's just the old model with a couple of red pixels floating around him. They could have at least added a couple of siva armour plates on him.
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Can I say another point. When you said he was attached almost to the ship. He put his mind into it. Does that explain his barrier and how we destroy it. So he was Reborn with SIVA. SIVA nodes grow out of the ground from the Ketch. Which give him an unbreakable barrier. Does that show that he must have infused SIVA into the ship? Remember, SIVA can be made into ANYTHING.
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Edited by w3rdblader: 12/16/2016 11:24:05 PMOr just stick with the one liner from ikora that explains it all. He was more machine than alive, if he was alive at all.
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My only gripe is the part about the formation of the devil splicers. Shiro-4 states that all fallen houses have a sect called splicers, it was just the prominent House of Devils sect of splicers that got to Siva, possibly manipulated into being guinea pigs with SIVA for the House of Kings(?)
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Because this is a video game. That's why.
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I'm still confused at the fact when we kill him his cannon is still scorch....
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Um, I don't think Taniks had a lot to do with the creation of the Splicers. The in game dialogue from Shiro stated that each house had their sect of Splicers. What I'm thinking is that Taniks was a Splicer in his own right until he broke apart from his house.
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Lawnmower man... I dunno