I have and we'll have to agree to disagree, I like lots of mechanics in raids and whatnot. I expect raids to be harsh if anyone screws up. With that said though, I still like Wrath of the Machine a lot. I would like to see hard mode have many more mechanics (instead of one or two changes) while keeping normal mode fairly simple and straight to the point (like wrath of the machine).
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Fair enough. I just find it to be more of a challenge to lose someone or multiple people and still manage to complete an engagement or boss fight. Not have the whole team screwed over immediately if someone makes one little mistake that doesn't even kill them. Forced team wipes is not a challenge in my opinion.