Well that's jargon by that point lol. Jargon isn't some universal thing. That's where this misunderstanding is coming from. Especially when they are devs, and they likely have their own jargon. I understand believe me, but I say outside tree and inside tree because I know that "tree" isn't universally understood as a certain one among players. Like how my friends use party room for a room that is exclusively orange. I say orange room cause I'm not a tard and actually like effective communication.