Actually Pants. People just expect people to not one line in other RPs. A lot of people agree that too much detail is annoying. But people would like just some details instead of just [i]swings sword at _____[/i] And you don't really get trashed on for doing one liners sometimes, I mean we all occasionally do that. But in fights for example, it's annoying as hell. As for the whole predetermined outcome shit, of course that's a thing. Look at your twilight plot that went on for god knows how long, we all knew the good guys were gonna win. The fun in plots or fights is not the outcome, but how it is done.

That's true. But in the end once something has an outcome it's no longer PvP. It's PvE. My twilight quest was PvE. Also obviously one liners are not appreciated in fights. But writing eight paragraphs for one move is annoying as well. The best way to fight is to have a singular move that's well described over a paragraph or two. So still, this is the best place to PvP in my own opinion from what I've seen.

That is literally what I just said. Wouldn't technically everything be a PvE if a determined outcome was in sight? Let's say I had a person captured and I was given permission to kill them on the spot. Is that PvE? No. A predetermined outcome would be like the shit Phantom pulled in Vigilance in RPL with the whole Delrose killed Kalamity business. There are actually many ways to go through and end a plot. Hell, most aren't even predetermined. June Bellicose is one good example of that. If it's predetermined, usually the plot OP will try to steer people on track or Rocks Fall Everyone Dies. Which is 99% never the case.