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3/24/2017 6:07:08 PM
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Well damn, I can't argue with you anymore. Quit being so sensible and coherent!
Jokes aside, I do love debates like this. We started out with stating opposing views/opinions and worked our way to a conclusion. I agree on you with everything now, and this has tempered some of my thoughts, so thanks for the insight.
To take your last two issues, economy and the best rewards, I think Bungie is moving in a better direction with them. Economy needs to just be reworked in D2, but has been improved upon as the game has progressed. And the best looking (or craziest looking) gear will be coming only from raids after Age of Triumph launches. Might be too late for Destiny, but it signals a philosophy change that could be influential in D2.
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[quote]And the best looking (or craziest looking) gear will be coming only from raids after Age of Triumph launches. [/quote] This is where we likely disagree. I don't think any of the AoT gear looks all that appealing. Nothing in Y2 looks as good to me as my IB gear I got early on in Y2. Too much bells and whistles, too much bling, and you just start to look like a joke. Think of a Harley Motorcycle with spinners LOL. It's just ridiculous. I also don't like the idea of mainly cosmetic gear for doing the hardest stuff in the game. Cosmetics are good, but you need something in addition to that, something that will reduce your grind in other phases. This is why elemental primaries were such a great reward in Y1. They reduced grind without harming PVP balance in the slightest. But you need more than great primary weapons to chase as treasures because people will then only do the raids for the primary weapons. The raids need more weapons like OG Black Hammer and Corrective measure. Weapons that were still top of their class for a while. Even stuff that are as powerful as G-horn should arguably only come from the raids and nightfall, since they aren't NECESSARY to do all the content in the game, but they do reduce grind. And that has been my point. RoI's raid gear may have been an improvement over Kings Fall, but the gear itself is only on par with everything available outside of the raid. And when your rewards are equally as good outside of the raid as they are inside the raid, you literally have NO incentive to do anything harder (i.e., no incentive to do the raid).
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[quote]This is where we likely disagree.... too much bells and whistles, too much bling, and you just start to look like a joke. Think of a Harley Motorcycle with spinners LOL. It's just ridiculous.[/quote] But you did agree with me that it was crazy. Gotcha! [quote]I also don't like the idea of mainly cosmetic gear for doing the hardest stuff in the game.[/quote] Agreed, and I hope it won't be that way moving forwards. Just stating that, for now, you can't get such wild gear from anywhere else but the Raids. I do hope that D2 has some great Raid rewards that make people go back and raid every week to get them. Year 1 got that part spot-on.
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[quote] Agreed, and I hope it won't be that way moving forwards. Just stating that, for now, you can't get such wild gear from anywhere else but the Raids. I do hope that D2 has some great Raid rewards that make people go back and raid every week to get them. Year 1 got that part spot-on.[/quote] Exactly. I played to raid in Y1. Over 300+ raid completions between VoG and CE. Only 16 completions of KF. THAT should tell you everything you need to know about what is wrong with Y2. No incentive to raid. The rewards were utter crap, which completely killed any desire to raid. We play for fun, sure, but we also need good rewards to chase after, and a reason to replay the raids over and over again. If not, then it becomes more of a game of Strikes and PVP, and a whole lot of nothing else. I've played that game. It's called Y2. And it's boring.
