[quote]I've said this before and I'll say it again. [i]There was never any "disk-locked content[/i]. "But it was in trailers!!!!" So? Development is a long process. TDB released just a few months after the original launch. A good portion of it had to have been in process before release. "But, but, all those empty DLC spaces!!!!!1!!" Again, so? That's called planning ahead. Having the spaces ready meant that [i]when[/i] the content was ready (which it wasn't, not at launch), they could drop it in. Beyond that common (and absurd) misconception, your notion that vanilla was better because we all had a common weapon to chase is beyond ridiculous. I seem to remember complaints back then that everyone looked the same. The "metas" back then were a lot more specific as well. Beyond that, playing just for the hope of some reward is why so many of you got burned out. And then started whining. A lot has changed. The complaining spirit of this community hasn't. It's sad really, as things are finally coming together. These last few months have been the most fun I've had in destiny yet. The special ammo fix isn't ideal, but it [i]is[/i] a solution. I just wish you kids would stop searching for things to complain about and enjoy the damn game.[/quote] Beyond my notion year 1 was better? I never said it was better. When listing things in a time order, it makes sense to start at the beginning. I started by saying year 1 was good. Never did I say it was the best thing in destiny. Starts there because, well, that's where the game started.

Logic isn't aloud here

[quote]Destiny Vanilla all the way through to TTK was supposed to be in the original game. There's videos and screenshots of e3 gameplay in 2013 which is like pre alpha. There's a section where guardians are fighting an ogre on the dreadnaught, there's also another scene where a guardian flies in to earth from orbit and you can see they had 'The Waning Star' which is the taken ship. Rise of iron was the only dlc that was created after the original game shipped. All the others were cut up and set as "DLC" because Joe staten left before destiny released.[/quote] 1. The Waning Star is a reskin if the ship you get from Atheon. So get that notion out of your head. It's look more a Regulus Class 99 style ship. There is however, a flash of white light as tell guardian drops out of the ship. Probably why you think it's the Waning Star. 2. Fighting an Ogre on the Dreadnaught doesn't mean TTK storyline was supposed to be in Vanilla. Plus, the final 1/3 of Joe Staten's story involved rescuing Rasputin from the Dreadnaught, not finding a path to Oryx. So only the part of TTK that's from Vanilla is the Dreadnaught itself, not the story. Hell, it can even be argued that much of the Dreadnaught was altered to accommodate the TTK storyline (don't see where a Cabal ship crashing into it fits in with rescuing somebody). 3. Vanilla Destiny was chopped to pieces after Staten left shortly before the original launch date, correct. But they then had to produce a functional game [i]and [/i]still produce DLC. Many resources were reused and recycled, sure. TDB was created by a separate team after most of Vanilla was done. They cranked it out in 9 weeks. If TDB and HoW we're already done like you claim, why does your Ghost never speak in either? [spoiler]Because the content was not created yet and Dinklage was already gone.[/spoiler] And if those DLC were already done as you claim, where is Saturn? Europa? Why are we running through old areas backwards instead new ones? Why is the Crota Raid so short and even more glitchy than Atheon? Vanilla and its DLC wreak of "rush job." Why rush what's already done and waiting to be released? A cursory thought to these answers should be enough to disprove that "anonymous 411 source" from Reddit. Hell Bungie even admitted that programmers were writing the script and lines for the new Frankenstein Vanilla.

Because they scrapped the original story sometime shortly before release, remember that story writer that left bungie. With that done and the story writer out bungie scrambled to piece together the Frankenstein game we know today as destiny. Some one like Osiris that isn't even in the game now was supposed to play a huge role in destiny's original story.

Jet steel melt can't beams fuel.

Whoops, my bad.