So, another person who thinks out the longest and smartest post about why Destinyis bad or should be bette...lol, only when you come to yhe OFFICIAL Destiny forums do you immediately see the toxicity that comes in this game...I think I need to refute a couple of points that the original poster is trying to make: 1. "There wasn't a singular thing that ruined the original Destiny experience. It was a culmination of multiple errors." Ruined the Destiny experience? If he has played all 3 years as he implies, and is a user of the forum, it's safe to say that he has gotten a pretty good experience. 2. "You had a nightfall that when you were launching in, you were a tad nervous. Because you knew you could spend an hour or so trying, just to lose it all very fast, and be booted to orbit. The sense of achievement when you completed it was excellent. The rewards were good too." This is the one thing I can agree with. I also believe the nightfall was better with the "kick to oribt" mechanic...they are bringing back the blue flame buff which is cool but that buff was much more impressive with that mechanic in place. Today's nightfall is a step back from yesterday's but honestly, I think it's one of but a very few things that may be worse. 3. Year 1 felt relevant. There was an end game gun we chased. We felt rewarded. Haha, yeah right dude...I also personally prefer ed the tough to drop, rare to obtain, difficult to get stuff on the hardest level of gameplay, I love to be challeneged. HOWEVER, the grass is always greener but at that time, all everyone complained about was the drop rates and "forever 29" and I can't get a gjallarhorn and they won't let me do Crota! The majority of casuals outweigh us hardcover guys by a large margin and video games are a business, that means its about appealing to the highest possible number of players i.e. newbs. He talks about "if you know year 1", but if HE knows year 1, then he should know this is true. 4. "Then year 2 arrived. And it started to feel like the best parts of the game were slowly being removed." 5.What?!?! The Taken King was the best recieved era (pending Age of Triumph) during the games life. They separated the light from gear and changed the way progression works, they adjusted drop rates and added a new story(that was better than the original,maps, game modes, etc...nearly everyone I played with, most news publications, and people on this forum saw it as a major improvement for the games extended life. Some of the rest are definitely mistakes they made (and ones I believe they learned from) but this was a whole new genre of game and they are the first pioneer in it...others are now trying to copy it and people still play it after 3 years...It's mine and a lot of people's favorite game ever and to say it was "ruined" was an overstatement. I have faith the next one will be infinitely better anyway, but I would never say Destiny was ruined, it has been a great journey.