Do you have any idea what it actually takes to make a video game? To say little effort went into destiny is about as ignorant of a thing as a person can say! I'm not saying it was a perfect game. I doubt d2 will be perfect either. I have yet to play a game I would describe that way. And if I did, it would be subjective, as what is perfect to one person is likely not prefect to the next. That said.... make a working and decent looking version of centipede in unity before you talk to me about how little effort they put into destiny. Better yet, attempt the destiny orbit screen by yourself. Just the orbit screen. See how "little" effort that takes. If your really feeling feisty, why don't you make an inventory ui, and a phone app that will link to it, so you can control your inventory from your phone in game seamlessly. As someone learning game design in my free time, I can promise you that there is not a single piece of this game that took little effort. The whole game was a pretty big experiment to begin with. It's had ups and downs. But end of the day, I've gotten my money's worth in entertainment out of it. And I'm glad that bungie even gives a shit enough to ask for player feedback. They can't plausibly give every poster on the forums what they want. But the fact that they even give enough of a shit that the forum exists for this purpose, in spite of how such a large portion the community uses such a lack of... shall we say tact... when communicating their thoughts to bungie....it's testimony that they want to make something that people enjoy. Because at the end of the day, no customers=no bungie.