So, you have over 4800 hours played, and you're willing to give D2 the thumbs down before we know [b]anything[/b] about it? Heck, I would pay double, or maybe triple the value of D1 if D2 gives me 1/5 of the play time you got in D1. To say Destiny forces PvP down your throat is a lie. If it was that bad, how come you've managed to play 90% of 4800++ hours in PvE? This coming from someone who doesn't like PvP that much to be honest, so my view is not favored towards PvP.