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4/15/2017 6:35:13 AM
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HZD ending discussion

Making this topic because I couldn't find any others that were relevant. I know I'm a little late, but I just beat it and got the platinum trophy today and was hoping to find some ending discussion. So yeah spoilers ahead, obviously... [spoiler]I didn't particularly like the game all that much for probably the first ten hours. You didn't have any cool shit, and the combat felt incredibly tedious and boring. I can definitely say however that it gets a lot better. By the time I hit the level cap I felt like an all powerful god. This is not uncommon for an RPG, but HZD was trying to be both a true action game and RPG I felt like, so it being bad at first was less excusable than I would normally feel. I feel like the ending of the story fell flat. I was expecting payoffs beyond just eliminating Hades. I was hoping to get to talk to GAIA and find out what happened to the other AI's, so that humanity could start to rebuilt for real. Sadly, it seems we'll have to wait for the sequel. Also, why did the machines shut themselves off after you took out Hades? Shouldn't you have had to reactivate GAIA in order to reverse it? Was Hades planning on hanging out at the spire, broadcasting that signal for the rest of its existence or what? Not that the story was all bad. To the contrary, I actually really enjoyed it. I thought the revelations were all well done, and the overall set up was very cool. I'm interested to see what direction they take the series. As for Sylens, I felt like his ending was a bit cheap. First of all, why did he abandon you after telling you his real story? He definitely could have been useful at the final battle. He basically just assumes that you are gonna take care of everything, but you very nearly fail, and if you had the world would have ended again. Wtf was he doing that was so important? And then for Hades to magically fly back to Sylens for some reason... You would think he learned his lesson from what happened the last time he tried to -blam!- with Hades. It just didn't seem to fit the story at all and was just a dumb way to set up plot points for expansions or sequels. Overall I really liked the game. Almost surprisingly so given how I felt about it out of the gate. It's definitely a franchise I will look forward to playing in the future and is probably my new favorite Sony exclusive. [/spoiler]

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  • I thought the final battle was a bit anticlimactic just fighting a deathbringer. They should have made it where we fight hades as a Metal Devil that would have been cool. Other than that I thought the game was great. And the reason all the machines shut down was because Hades was the AI that made all of the ancient machines possible. He was the one behind their "programming" I guess you could call it to take over everything and try to destroy. So once he was gone, the ancients shut down. As far a rebuilding GAIA, there wasn't much to really see. It's gonna take a long time to rebuild her and we already know how she works. Plus they explained how they could do that at one point in the game. It would just be a matter of time. And who knows that process might be included in the sequel to some degree. With Sylens, the entire game he is just completely obsessed with knowledge. He wants to know everything about the Old Ones no matter the cost. I kind of suspected he may turn and end up being a bad guy. Or at least a man on his own side working on his own terms. I mean think about it. While searching the old ruins during the game, whenever you mentioned something not related to figuring out what the old ones were doing there, he would always shut you up and tell you to focus on discovering the secrets of the place you were in. He never cared about Aloy. He just needed her because she was the only one who could access these secrets. And that's why he didn't help with the final battle. I think he knew Aloy would be able to win, and he left to prepare for what came next. I think he told Aloy his story just to kind of appease her. At the very end, I kinda saw that as Sylens capturing whatever was left of Hades into that container. I didn't read that as Hades necessarily working with Sylens. Hades has to be very disconnected with everything and very weak. With his connections to the ancient machines severed, because they did indeed shut down, which wouldn't have happened if he was still at "full power" so to speak. I think Sylens takes advantage of this to safely interrogate Hades without running the risk of being betrayed again. Since everyone thinks he's dead now.

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