Great listen as always. I feel as though I'm not incredibly late to finishing the cast so I'll reply on some topics. A bit long in the tooth so I'll reply seperately. Here’s my thing regarding the grenades and I can’t stress how much this is just my opinion and not how things should go. Apart from an initial stint in the original Modern Warfare, this is the first game I’ve played PvP in for a prolonged time. I never was very good at PvP but I was persistent, watched training videos on YouTube and saw my skills growing and growing. I never even knew about an overall K/D until half way through year two and always just played crucible for fun in between PvE content. I have been frustrated by several of the metas for a few reasons but I’d say overall is because it never really promoted my way of play (That's not the way I play so you guys shouldn't have fun doing it). Stupid I know, but my problem, I'd never actually say that. I definitely think there has been a growth in sticky’s and I will tell you why it’s clear. Before the last update, the grenade that annoyed me was skip grenades. Not because they were op, but because every hunter in the solar system was running them with Shinobu’s vow, so time in the crucible was mostly spent running from them rather than dodging bullets. For an extreme tracking grenade those things definitely did way to much damage and should have had damage numbers of a Swarm grenade instead. Anyway I don’t see them anymore or at least not as much, all I see now are sticky’s of every variety. I resent what RWG said about “If you come around the corner and someone throws a sticky grenade then you’re dead”. Sure I’d be fine with that if your discipline build didn’t mean you get a grenade back every 25 seconds. I’ll detail my Guardian grenade builds in a separate post if anyone cares but just know for the biggest grenade build I have it is Warlock wearing Sunbreakers, using Tlaloc and a Fusion rifle with either Grenadier or Army of One. Hell even the Heavy (Baron’s Ambition) has Grenadier). For that reason to increase my grenade stock, I’m shooting and killing people, not just waiting 25 seconds to throw another “incredibly sticky to the point of symbiosis” grenade. Skill points = zero. Again I’d be alright if the grenades weren’t a one hit kill. Which is another thing you guys said. Again I disagree with this. Only stick grenades and perfectly placed incendiary grenades are one hit kills, though in the latter they can be countered by Memory of Silimar. Where is my artefact that reduces the damage from sticky grenades by 50%? Like I said, these are the grenades I find annoying. Not because they are OP per say, but more because 90% of guardians are now using them. It makes it a frustrating, not fun experience. PS. Hoof Hearted is an excellent name 