They're fine but what sucks is that you absolutely need a god roll to succeed with them. Anything less than max range isn't good enough.
Picked up a Y1 blue HC with Sureshot, Rangefinder, and Send It. Range hit 50 and the gun had aim assist in the high 60s. Not bad.
Yet the damage drop off was insane, the accuracy was horrible, and I haven't used it since.
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My non max range palidrome says otherwise.
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You could always use your brain & get closer if your weapon has less range.
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Perhaps every engagement doesn't happen at precisely the range I want it to. And perhaps the hit registration was bad unless I was literally point blank. Your vitriol is uninformed and unwanted.
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It may be unwanted, but it's definitely informed.
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So you're informed when you say that range is a non-factor on HCs?
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I'm not sure who you meant to reply to, but I never said that. My suggestion even implies the opposite of that.
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What you imply is that making low-range guns viable is as simple as getting closer, when you're very rarely going to be able to pick the precise distance you engage at. That's where I drew my statement from. Sure, I could get closer with it to negate the low range, but that's not the point of the post. Range, especially on HCs, has a lot to do with accuracy. This gun with range in the low 50s, Sureshot, and rangefinder, doesn't feel crisp at all. The damage drop off is quite severe due to all the nerfs to range all HCs have received. My point is not that I sucked with it. It's to point out how bad any HC that doesn't have max or at least near-max is. ~50 range and rangefinder is nothing to sneeze at. Yet the drop off was still severe.
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[quote]You could always use your brain & get closer if your weapon has less range.[/quote]
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[quote]They're fine but what sucks is that [b]you absolutely need a god roll to succeed with them[/b]. Anything less than max range isn't good enough. [/quote] Wouldn't that mean they're not "fine"? Am I the only one that sees the paradox in that statement?
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This is the icon of a bandwagon post.
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Uh, what?
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I said... [quote]This is the icon of a bandwagon post.[/quote]
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Explaining what you mean would be nice. I don't think everyone's going to go spend hours in PoE grinding for a nice god roll Sir Isaac on the testimony I've given.
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Jvp Wrench summed up my point. I could go into further detail if you like, but it won't be until tomorrow. Bed time for me.
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I'll be replying to him so just check that when you wake up.
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Exactly, without rangefinder and rifled barrel they are practically useless.. All the other perks have no use anymore so imo they ruined them. All because of the thorn noobs.. I miss my Red hand IX
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Didn't help that Bungie has nerfed range on ALL HCs several times due to one or two good hand cannons that were flying high. That low-impact HC archetype that is positive shit right now due to its low range keeps getting its range hit because Eyasluna is too popular.