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There may be a lot more red bars coming in the future.

None of us like lag. It ruins our games. We've always been highly vocal about this issue towards Bungie, and for good reason. However, we may soon see the servers of Destiny 2 flooded with red bars, and it won't be the player's, nor Bungie's fault. The FCC, a part of the U.S government that regulates communications, cable, broadband, and internet, is planning on pushing the plan to remove Net Neutrality protections. I won't go into the nitty gritty, as there's a lot of technical stuff to it, but imagine it as this: the Internet will become cable. Do you wanna browse Netflix? Well you'll have to buy your ISP's (Internet Service Provider) [b]Television Pack[/b], containing the ability to access sites like Hulu, Amazon, and Netflix. If you aren't willing to pay that extra monthly fee, you'll be blocked from entering those sites. What does this have to do with Destiny? Well, let's say that Time Warner wants Bungie and Activision to pay them a monthly fee, or else they'll throttle the speeds of their customers when playing Destiny 2. Not only will this be commonplace, it will be [b]perfectly legal[/b]. Don't believe that it would happen? They [b]already did it to League of Legends and Netflix[/b], and it's not even legal right now. https://www.polygon.com/2017/2/9/14548880/time-warner-lawsuit-new-york-league-of-legends-netflix So, if Net Neutrality protections are revoked, expect ISPs to charge you in the same way they do cable for the ability to go to certain sites. If they don't like a site, such as 4chan or b.net, they can slow your access to it, and there's nothing you can do about it. They can tell Bungie to pay up, and if they don't, all their customers will become red bars in Destiny 2. How can you help stop this? Today, July 12, is the big day to protest and make a fuss. Email and call your state representative, let all your friends and family know, rally support. If we don't let Congress know our opinions in as huge a manner as possible, they will allow the Internet to become a place that ISPs can freely and legally exploit. [b]Nobody wants a Crucible match filled with red bars. Help save the internet.[/b] Check out https://www.fightforthefuture.org for more info and ways to help. EDIT: Wow, the support for this has been nothing short of incredible! Thank you to everyone who's been voicing your support. However, there are two details I want to talk about. One: This goes much further than red bars in the Crucible. This issue is completely and utterly anti-American. Those who are saying so in this thread are completely right. I used the example of red bars as a way to show this subforum that this affects [b]everyone[/b] in the U.S with an internet connection, and more than a few outside the States as well. Two: This is not a red vs. blue issue. Ajit Pai, the head of the FCC, is not doing this because he is Republican. He is doing it because he's a former Verizon lawyer who is supporting these huge corporations. This is not the time to bicker over who's at fault; now is the time to band together and let Congress know that [b]people care.[/b] EDIT 2: A tiny couple of people believe that we can't do anything, that the internet is doomed already. To them, and to anybody who's reading this, I want you to look at this. https://imgur.com/a/vYVet? We aren't alone. Thank you all for caring.

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    To those who falsly claim net neutrality does nothing— (A history of net neutrality infringements from freepress.) [b]MADISON RIVER[/b]: In 2005, North Carolina ISP Madison River Communications blocked the voice-over-internet protocol (VOIP) service Vonage. Vonage filed a complaint with the FCC after receiving a slew of customer complaints. The FCC stepped in to sanction Madison River and prevent further blocking, but it lacks the authority to stop this kind of abuse today. [b]COMCAST[/b]: In 2005, the nation’s largest ISP, Comcast, began secretly blocking peer-to-peer technologies that its customers were using over its network. Users of services like BitTorrent and Gnutella were unable to connect to these services. 2007 investigations from the Associated Press, the Electronic Frontier Foundation and others confirmed that Comcast was indeed blocking or slowing file-sharing applications without disclosing this fact to its customers. [b]TELUS[/b]: In 2005, Canada’s second-largest telecommunications company, Telus, began blocking access to a server that hosted a website supporting a labor strike against the company. Researchers at Harvard and the University of Toronto found that this action resulted in Telus blocking an additional 766 unrelated sites. [b]AT&T[/b]: From 2007–2009, AT&T forced Apple to block Skype and other competing VOIP phone services on the iPhone. The wireless provider wanted to prevent iPhone users from using any application that would allow them to make calls on such “over-the-top” voice services. The Google Voice app received similar treatment from carriers like AT&T when it came on the scene in 2009. [b]WINDSTREAM[/b]: In 2010, Windstream Communications, a DSL provider with more than 1 million customers at the time, copped to hijacking user-search queries made using the Google toolbar within Firefox. Users who believed they had set the browser to the search engine of their choice were redirected to Windstream’s own search portal and results. [b]MetroPCS[/b]: In 2011, MetroPCS, at the time one of the top-five U.S. wireless carriers, announced plans to block streaming video over its 4G network from all sources except YouTube. MetroPCS then threw its weight behind Verizon’s court challenge against the FCC’s 2010 open internet ruling, hoping that rejection of the agency’s authority would allow the company to continue its anti-consumer practices. [b]PAXFIRE[/b]: In 2011, the Electronic Frontier Foundation found that several small ISPs were redirecting search queries via the vendor Paxfire. The ISPs identified in the initial Electronic Frontier Foundation report included Cavalier, Cogent, Frontier, Fuse, DirecPC, RCN and Wide Open West. Paxfire would intercept a person’s search request at Bing and Yahoo and redirect it to another page. By skipping over the search service’s results, the participating ISPs would collect referral fees for delivering users to select websites. [b]AT&T, SPRINT and VERIZON[/b]: From 2011–2013, AT&T, Sprint and Verizon blocked Google Wallet, a mobile-payment system that competed with a similar service called Isis, which all three companies had a stake in developing. [b]EUROPE[/b]: A 2012 report from the Body of European Regulators for Electronic Communications found that violations of Net Neutrality affected at least one in five users in Europe. The report found that blocked or slowed connections to services like VOIP, peer-to-peer technologies, [b]gaming applications[/b] and email were [b]commonplace[/b]. [b]VERIZON[/b]: In 2012, the FCC caught Verizon Wireless blocking people from using tethering applications on their phones. Verizon had asked Google to remove 11 free tethering applications from the Android marketplace. These applications allowed users to circumvent Verizon’s $20 tethering fee and turn their smartphones into Wi-Fi hot spots. By blocking those applications, Verizon violated a Net Neutrality pledge it made to the FCC as a condition of the 2008 airwaves auction. [b]AT&T[/b]: In 2012, AT&T announced that it would disable the FaceTime video-calling app on its customers’ iPhones unless they subscribed to a more expensive text-and-voice plan. AT&T had one goal in mind: separating customers from more of their money by blocking alternatives to AT&T’s own products. [b]VERIZON[/b]: During oral arguments in Verizon v. FCC in 2013, judges asked whether the phone giant would favor some preferred services, content or sites over others if the court overruled the agency’s existing open internet rules. Verizon counsel Helgi Walker had this to say: “I’m authorized to state from my client today that but for these rules we would be exploring those types of arrangements.” Walker’s admission might have gone unnoticed had she not repeated it on at least five separate occasions during arguments. --- Don't let Net Neutrality slip away. ~[i]TheGreatNike[/i]

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