NM actually had the worst guns. The DO shotgun, pulse, and hand cannon are all great.
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LOL..Dead orbit easily had the worst weapons. The pulse dropped for me before the faction rally started and it is absolutely terrible..it gets melted at all ranges. The shotgun gets outclassed by many (Hawthorne's shotty is way better) The hand cannon is probably the best gun and HCs in general are wildly underwhelming. New monarchy has a scout that is as good or better than the "reward" this week. NM has a really good SMG and auto rifle (autos are the most consistent weapons in the game currently). Speaking of shotguns..NM has the BEST slug shotgun in the game. It's a clone of the Chaperone and can snipe people. Oh and those NM shaders are 🔥
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That's your [spoiler]opinion[/spoiler]. The NM scout looks amazing, but it's actually garbage to use. Every other scout of that archetype is better.
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Maybe for you but the old fashioned and better devils and trial hc all outclass it so there's no reason for me to use it. The pulse is decent you got that on me but there are PLENTY better pulses and that archetype isn't really that great for pvp. And the sudden death shotty from trials eclipses all others, the only reason I'd use anything else is the NM shotty because it's a Chaperone incarnate and that was my fav exotic from D1 or Hawthornes shotgun is really good for pve.
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Outclass in what way? It comes down to [spoiler]personal preference[/spoiler]. If you're skilled enough to consistently land crits with the DO hand cannon, it's better dps than Better Devils and the Old Fashioned in that regard. If it was the developers' intention for us to only use the best weapons then they wouldn't make a variety. I also find some weapons to be more [spoiler]fun[/spoiler] to use than others, regardless of usefulness.
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Maybe if you're talking boss Dps but who really would use a hand cannon for that, and what boss do you even need to weapon adjust for dps aside from the raid boss? And then why are you using a hand cannon period? Crucible wise the old fashioned deletes everything else by it's perk alone, one kill and you can 3 tap at any range in the maps with a archetype that takes only four.
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You must not have read the part of my post about [spoiler]fun[/spoiler]. Not everyone min/maxes in this game.
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I don't min max I was just referring to how many other weapons are better which was my point.
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Again, "better" from your standpoint. From your posts it seems you'd prefer them for crucible, which is fine. I don't care which is better based on your personal criteria, I care which is worth using and still fun to use. For me if it's only statistically better then it isn't worth my time. Similar to using MIDA/Uriel's Gift. Sure, they're statistically "better" than other loadouts, but they aren't fun for me to use. I prefer Manannan and a HC or SMG or autorifle.
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No I did, I just answered your question about how it is outclassed, if you're talking fun factor then that's on whoever plays, but that's not what I said and not what you asked.
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NM scout and shotty are beasts. the -blam!-ing shotty is a boss melter.
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It's fun to use, I'll give it that. They should up the pve damage of shotguns a bit, though.
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the royal Bathouse is where it shines. "What cleaver guy ?" "ohh that big dude who cannot even get out of the deep part? yeah it's dead...."
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I'll have to give it a shot. I usually use the raid launcher and a submachine gun.
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I now see why DO won..... Full of retards that think the guns are good
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You seem upset. Maybe it's time for a little fresh air break?
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Slug shotgun with high range beats dead orbit, the sidearm reward is much better than dead orbits.
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Thank you
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Slug shotgun vs buckshot is situational. Full auto sidearm vs high impact scout is your opinion. I personally prefer scouts. That being said, I rep New Monarchy on my main and unfortunately the scout they have is garbage, and the autorifle is outclassed by many others.