You do have a point there. I do remember buying games on a cartridge and what was on was on there if it was great or sucked there was no going back to the drawing board. People did rely on word of mouth instead of glitzy ads and stadium presentations. There is this attitude that when a game ships it can still be tinkered with and fine tuned after release. It's like a blessing and a curse. Sure it's great to fix minor issues but shouldn't be used as a crutch to fix broken games. Then the feedback forums are full of different types of players wanting different things. Destiny is trying to be all things to all people. Perhaps Bungie needs to focus on one aspect and do it well rather than trying to combine all these different elements into one coherent and cohesive package. Some people want Destiny to be a competitive PvP game. Some want a more MMO pve centric game. Some want more focus on rpg elements while others are more concerned about weapon balance. Then some just want a good fps solo experience. How the hell are you supposed to do all that. You can't please all of the people all of the time. There will always be someone feeling left out and disgruntled. By the end of ROI they already had a decent and loyal fan base and the game was heading in the right direction. They should have just expanded on what was already there instead of going backwards trying to make everyone happy because that leads to no one being happy. Wow I kinda rambled on there but those are my thoughts.