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11/9/2017 4:05:07 AM
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It's still a game I enjoy, sure. Certain things are really too good to stop playing. I like the classes (Hunter, Warlock, Titan). The concept is awesome. The lore is actually really deep. No one can dispute the game [i]feels[/i] good to play, its one of the smoothest shooters ever. And there's more simple little things that make it a worthwhile experience. But I've pretty much come to a realization. (Well. It actually happened in The Dark Below.) It's kind of a shrug thing. Destiny isn't going to be the game we thought of initially. It just isn't. I'm not going to go through the list of ways that it fell short and all that. That is well documented by the millions of posts made about how it sucks or whatever. But honestly, if Destiny were gonna be the "thing" I thought it was gonna be, it'd have to just become a brand new game by now. It's not just the problems with it going "casual" or having a meaningless power level system or bland loot. It's deeper than that. When I first envIsioned Destiny 1, I pictured like, Skyrim style epic. Or World of Warcraft epic. In my mind it would be a game so huge and deep that it kinda reinvented the wheel. I pictured story and quests like the Witcher 3, exploration and world building of Skyrim, the loot and shoot of Borderlands, and an RPG setup akin to Diablo 2. I pictured It just like they built it up to be, the Star Wars of gaming. But it's not. It never was. Never will be. A change to the skill trees or better exotics or a voice for our character is not going to cut it. Destiny still [i]plays[/i] like mostly a cut and dry FPS. Traditionally, Bungie is an FPS making machine. So yeah it's no surprise [i]those[/i] mechanics work the best. The gunplay, the gameplay, the setpieces, the score, the skyboxes. But the [i]very moment[/i] you set foot into anything that resembles an RPG element? It loses it's way. They don't understand that "more story" doesn't just mean more comm chatter or cinematic cutscenes. They don't get that just placing caves full of enemies around the map and calling them "lost sectors" is not exploration. They don't realize that randomly repeating tasks in the open world like Public Events or whatever do not count as immersion. Nothing really has the depth an RPG typically has. Not even D1 could scratch the surface. Social spaces are still bland, leveling up still doesn't make you feel more powerful, gear isn't rare unless by artificial methods... I dunno. The FPS elements are Bungie's strong suit, but anytime there's an RPG element it feels tacked on. It still doesn't feel "open world" or "alive" in any way. It jUst feels like an expanded FPS. And with the latest installment and their idea of fixes, it just solidifies what I think. I think that it's meant to be a game you play in bursts basically. Play, see what there is to see, get what there is to get, max your characters out, then quit and play another game for a bit. Till the next DLC. It just isn't gonna be that game we, or at least [i]I[/i], thought of. It does not have depth beneath the surface. I thought it would be the Mega culmination of several top tier games like Borderlands or Witcher 3. Turns out it just borrowed frail pieces of those games and tacked them together. It does everything those gamew did, just at 20% power. That being said, I've made peace with that. It's still fun for what it is. I still have fun playing the game, even though I look forward to needed tweaks. But no tweak is gonna give that feeling of a Witcher 3 sidequest or that random mine you explored in Skyrim to find that awesome sword. It won't have the depth of the character progression like WoW, Diablo, and countless other Exp grinders. It just isn't that. So I'm not expecting it to be. I'll still play It, but with the knowledge that it isn't the perfect thing I was looking for. But really, no amount of tweaking is going to completely change the game.
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  • Pretty much hit the nail on the head. I didn't get Destiny 1 until right before or right after Taken King launched, and being that I love FPS games, and well, the FPS part is so -blam!-ing good. Probably the best I've ever played and I've played a lot, and I fell in love with the raid, and for a few months it was the most fun I've ever had in a game because all the content was new to me. But now that I'm all caught up, it's just so damn shallow. I still enjoy the community aspect because I have a great clan to play with but, it'll never be what I thought it was going to be once I got into it. It's sad too because, it really has so much potential. It's like a young, uber talented college basketball team that shows flashes of greatness throughout the season but, flames out in the tournament.

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  • Edited by RoyalStarks: 11/9/2017 4:22:19 AM
    With the way they gave us this game Destiny is just another cod shooter. We're never getting that full mmofpsrpg shared world looter shooter or whatever the -blam!- you want to call it. The fans wanted lore in-game, npcs actually in the game as ai, everyone is still lifeless day after day, chats, a real experience, a real sequel. We get cod in the form of Destiny. Destiny 3 and Destiny 4 will be just like Destiny 2 probably, just more reboots. I mean I think you can imply this because no gear/content from the first game is in D2. We'll get all new strikes, maps, etc. But get prepared to lose attachment to anything you like for the next sequel. This isn't want the fans wanted. This is Activision, this is Bungie. Expect nothing less and expect updates always being added later. I'm so disappointed with all of the reskins, all of the guns that have no variety. Is this how Bungo treats its fans? If you guys are having fun more to you.. But I'm just as heartbroken as other D1 vets. This game is a lazy reboot not a sequel.. I'm so sad that everything cool is acquired from Eververse. Why can't I do a raid for a cool raid ship? Or a cool gun with unique perks? Our armor doesn't even have perks.. just this useless mod system So many things taken from the first game that everyone loved.. it's such a letdown

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