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Edited by WINTER PROPHET: 11/30/2017 3:39:23 AM
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Filthy, disgusting tactics Bungie. Exp throttle and hiding truth. Deplorable.

https://youtu.be/a6AQDtAJalY Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. And the RNG was never weighted in D1 right? I'm SO glad I stopped playing. Really. You RIGGED your own game, and when you got caught you either doubled the exp from what it was or you halved it after the fact. You're trash. ***Edited in spoiler info ************ *******4:12pm 11/29/17************ The following spoiler edit contains Bungies ign interview where Bungie states their independence in their unique contract with Activision, which has never been removed or countered by Activision all these years, where bungie expresses their complete 100% control over all things Destiny and the IP, where they stress that THEY (Bungie) have the "Final Say" on ALL things regarding the game. [spoiler]For those who may not BE aware that "Bungie has 100% final say regarding Destiny". The TLDR -->image<-- quoting those under Bungies own employ stating their 100% final say control over the Destiny game (full interview linked underneath this link): https://imgur.com/gallery/KZq4Z The "Full interview" of Bungie with IGN, stating their "100% Full Control of the Destiny game: http://m.ign.com/articles/2010/04/29/bungies-independence-day Paul Tassi of Forbes Magazine pointing out the huge mistake of time management in Bungies contract with Activision: https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2017/10/19/bungie-and-activisions-badly-scheduled-deal-is-what-hurt-destiny-2-the-most/amp/ Bungies "known" past publication of the contract with Activision: http://destiny.wikia.com/wiki/Bungie-Activision_Contract[/spoiler] ****From a discussion where a player called everyone for playing "idiots" and stated "experience is meaningless"****https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/239396629/0/0/1 [spoiler][quote]OMG you become outrages that they are only giving you 7 worthless nickels an hour... But you are the idiot that is working for them for worthless nickels to begin with... Shouldn't you be outraged at yourself for having such low self-esteem.[/quote] How can I be working for those if I never bought Destiny 2, and never played it (however I just downloaded the free trial but haven't created anything yet). By your analogy... Doesn't that make you "the idiot"? You literally just called yourself an idiot for doing exactly what you just accused me of, that I've never done. Wow. Life is good. Here, not that I believe you can read, but who knows maybe you'll actually understand this. [quote][i]EXP' basically become meaningless[/i][/quote] For reference: https://imgur.com/gallery/D7Go8 "Exp being meaningless "is completely incorrect. While the rewards are digital in the form of "Experience", the TIME in "real life" and the "work" that transpired was not digital. And because the monetary currency is "experience" in Bungies delegated system, it's no different than if a person was asked for bit-coins they'd earn by playing. The experience delegated by Bungie as a currency works same as if you were asked to pay bit-coins. The difference in this, is REAL life time and work required and existed to earn those bit-coins, only titled as "experience". With the throttle system at max only allowing 4% of that time to BE rewarded with an allowable 4% of the actual experience you legitimately earned, with an average of 6 hours a week, that 4% is only 1.44 hours, or 86.4 minutes. So out of 6 hours, Bungie would have only allowed 1.5hours (we will just round it up) of your real time you've spent to essentially exist to "them". The rest of the real time and work you've done is non-existent to them. It never happened. The time you've spent didn't exist. Every and any minute of your work to earn, thrown away, it's gone. With "experience" being the bit coin currency necessary to obtain loot boxes aka. Bright engrams with your "real life effort and time" Bungie was essentially ROBBING people of no less than 4% of the ACTUAL monetary COST of the loot boxes they spent actual work and time to aquire because the set experience necessary to level is the matched equivalent of 1 loot box which costs $2.00 per engram... $5.00 if you buy the silver. 1 loot box, minimum $2.00, with only 4% earned because of the throttle system essentially only allowed you .08, or a ridiculous 8 cents. Robbing every player of $1.92 cents every engram lost via a total of throttled real life work. Wow.... They were Actually robbing players of $1.92 every level beyond 20. Hardcore players were robbed the most. Which I find ironic, because hard core players are what seriously keeps this game alive, and Bungie essentially punished them the most with this system. So, put simpler. While you played this game, for every total necessary to earn a bright engram you payed Bungie $60 dollars for them to take your work in real life, steal real money via the throttled experience, and keep their contract with Activision afloat. Bungie SCR3WED every player since launch day. And they PAYED Luke Smith to do it. And even IF you didn't play with the throttle at max, eventually you were robbed of five dollars every time the total denied you a 2.5 bright engrams every day since launch. It's real life time. With real work. Doesn't matter "what" the reward was. So it's cool if you don't care they stole from you. Do you mind if I steal from you? Cause if it was me, you'd be angry if I took just one $1.00 dollar bill. Imagine me doing $2.00 every day you play forevery level for over 2 months. Rofl And you payed me $60 to do it to you. And you aren't smart enough to recognize this AND You just admitted to the entire community that you aren't smart enough if we stole from you? Pity. No wonder your analogy was wooden nickels. You aren't intelligent enough to recognize real money. Bye [/spoiler]

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  • Boycott bungie. Never buy any of their products again. It's not like D2 is fun anyway...

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  • I’m actually shocked to see people defending Bungie on this one. This is pretty cut and dry. Bungie lies, cheated players out of money, lied again.

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    • Yea this game SUCKS and Bungie HATES fun👎🏻

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      • Edited by woeful: 11/29/2017 10:26:57 PM
        Soooooo.... It is 'BAD' that Bungie decided it was a good idea to 'Lie' about how much exp you actually recive... I hope even the FanBoys can agree that 'Lying Is Bad'... That being said, why are people so outraged that game where you can reach 'Max' in less than 10 hours and where 'EXP' basically become meaningless in under 15 hours of game play has a 'Rigged EXP System'. The EXP is basically worthless. This is basically like you decided to take a Job that says it is paying you in 10 wooden nickels an hour and you later find out that they were only paying your an average of 7 wooden nickels and hour. OMG you become outrages that they are only giving you 7 worthless nickels an hour... But you are the idiot that is working for them for worthless nickels to begin with... Shouldn't you be outraged at yourself for having such low self-esteem.

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        • Activision has to be the worst company this industry has to offer, in terms of ethics, everything they are involved with will, or is complete trash.

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          • Wow. I seriously am at a loss for words. I mean I expected them to pull this stunt, but I guess I wanted to keep some shred of hope that they wouldn’t do this. Oh well.

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            • Bungie and Activision are screwing over their users.....won't spend another dime on the game/series.

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            • If people aren’t getting it yet, let’s be clear; Bungie is going to use whatever means at their disposal to manipulate players into making micro transactions, including extremely unethical practices. This isn’t going to stop - ever. This is who they are.

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              • Deplorable

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              • I gave up expecting Bungie to do the right thing long ago.

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              • Bungie is a garbage company. They've been screwing us long enough! Let them crash and burn!

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              • The EVIL at Bungie..it's called ACTIVISION.

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                • D1 was the exact same. That's why at max everything, it took close to 6 months to get warlock gauntlets from vog This is why after 170 lighthouse trips, I never received a full set of armor with the perks I wanted. I'm just entertaining myself while I do cardio @ the gym, I don't care anymore, that's why I don't play pr post anymore

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                  • why are u so pissed about an xp system? not saying what they did was right, but jesus this is a lot of anger over xp

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                  • Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the staff at Bungie. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Luke Smith. From what I can gather, he commands the Developers from an Imperial Land Tank just outside of Bungie. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.

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                    • Edited by A KOOL POP TART: 11/29/2017 6:54:28 PM
                      Lost Sols would probably say that we are over reacting and then act like a condescending jerk.

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                      • Remember when Bungie made Halo? They worked under Microsoft and basically built MLG to what it is today? And then they moved to Activision, and seemed to adopt all of the taint that company has to offer. Fantastic...I guess it could be worse, though: Destiny could have been published by EA...

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                        • Thx for the vids. V. Good. What are you playing now ?

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                          • Refunded my season pass! Go do one bungie!

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                            • Double XP? More like DOUBLE LIE!!!

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                            • Edited by SufrinTourettes: 11/29/2017 6:02:17 PM
                              Omg it all started long ago. Remember halo and you spent money for map packs which all had a remake of an old map from the previous games. Reselling you old stuff instead of new stuff and you liked it. You just took the old gum from under the desk and chewed it happily. And the cycle continues. Selling the same old crap they been serving for years put an all new sticker on it and every one has to have it. Lol 3,000,000 blind mice. Just saying.

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                            • [quote]https://youtu.be/a6AQDtAJalY Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. And the RNG was never weighted in D1 right? I'm SO glad I stopped playing. Really. You RIGGED your own game, and when you got caught you either doubled the exp from what it was or you halved it after the fact. You're trash.[/quote] You make a game and a marketing scheme for what 22 million people play everyday. They deserve credit for building a world for us that doesn't even exist with perfect shading and so on. Stop the hate or just keep it to yourself. Scream into a pillow every night because your life sucks. My Brother and I are physicians that live 1800 miles away and the only time we can talk after a long day of making the sick people better. We have the best t.v. that money can buy and the best PCs as well. We shoot stuff together and forget about our terrible days to enjoy Bungies for a while. We haven't spent a penny on anything except for the game release and the season pass. We have everything in the game, literally. Every exotic and ornament and all the prestige raid gear for all 3 character... We didn't spend a penny (we're doctors... money isn't everything.)

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                              • Grounds for a class action no?

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                                • You do know what an algorithm is right?

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                                • have you ever stopped to consider that their experience system might have been designed to give a boost to experience when you first start playing and then fall off back to normal rates? so assuming that was the intent, now that they have removed the boost you have no right to bitch about the broken system you helped demand for.

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                                  • Hahaha why you still on the forums if you stopped playing.. There something faulty with you?

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