I replied to the video with this, but thought I'd post it here too:
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Look, people are much more likely to notice a bad luck spree when they have a coin active and are actively waiting for an Exotic. When you play normally you just assume you'll get one now and then and aren't tracking how long it's been for the most part. You pop a coin, that all changes. All of these gaps between drop times would be within acceptable norms without a coin, meaning that a 1% chance isn't going to change much. Also, keep in mind that people are pretty much ten times as likely to post a complaint than a compliement. Everybody is going to complain when they get nothing, but very few are going to chime in when they have good luck.
This is proof of nothing and there is in NO way any confirmation of a bug. None of this is "evidence" - it is simply a decent number of personal, unverified testimonies. It's hardly applicable. To me this just seems like some clickbait attempt to finally have some unique, BREAKING NEWS!!! in a D2 video since most of the rest are boring, duplicated content (I mean from everybody, not just you).
***** I'm not saying it's not bugged, it very well could be -- *****
-- I'm saying that what this is based on, along with what most people freaking out are looking at, means pretty much nothing. Unfortunately, we probably won't ever have concrete evidence unless Bungie provides number, which they won't. Until somebody is willing to play 100+ hours both with and without a coin, multiple times, we won't have a clear dataset; and even then that would be the ABSOLUTE minimum to even BEGIN to create a theory. Taking a bunch of random complaints and comments, taking into consideration the points I made above, is quite literally entirely meaningless.
Edit: I feel like people are also forgetting that Exotic drop rates were nerfed in many areas, and we don't know by how much. This means it's very possible that even WITH a coin your drop rates is lower than before.
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Let me just say, Thank you. This is the kind of sound logic people have been forgetting.
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They were also buffed in some areas like crucible and strikes.
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Yep. And it's just as likely that if there is a bug, the bug has to do with that buff going wrong and not the coins at all. Or, there could be no bug and people just don't realize that you pay much more attention to elapsed time when a coin is active, when normally you don't think about it as much.
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That is also true, im looking on the forums at positive and negative things to see what people are doing with ToC, for example one person said they only work on lost sectors, patrols, and region chests. Once I get a bit more information I'm going to do a test and crunch the numbers to see what is up with them. It very well may be that people expect an exotic like you said, but that doesn't seem to be the case for some people who get "no blaming exotics over 8 blaming hours with three of coins!" Though from the tone of that it could for sure be exaggeration.
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Edited by Antosino: 12/17/2017 2:38:04 PMI can almost guarantee that it's 99% exaggerated. Somebody claiming "eight hours" usually just means "two coins". I doubt they played nonstop for 8 hours straight. Some people might, sure, but not enough for a proper sample size. When people are upset they want to vent. That's half of what's happening here. Exotics were nerfed and were meant to be low in the first place - if the coins didn't cause you to get an exotic every hour, this response was pretty much guaranteed considering the general attitude towards the game atm.
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I'm not mad. I'm just posting my personal experience with ToC. I played 12 hours yesterday.(not straight) but every time I looked on I played for the full 4 hours each time yesterday. I received 0 exotics. I even opened 3 raid chests just for shits and giggles. Not even one there. Had 2 clan mates play strikes 8 hours straight and 0 exotics as well. Out of my entire clan toc has not worked yet.
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Yeah, nice to talk to someone who isn't freaking out over the internet for once
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Oh, I freak out over plenty of stuff here. I just wish people realized that if you freak out over everything, nothing has any emphasis. Because of this, the real issues will be ignored and passed off as "just another freak-out". People really need to only lose their heads over something when it's significant and, more importantly, CONFIRMED!
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Totally I'll also freak out when something is confirmed, or I feel really robbed.(such as getting 5 riskrunners from 5 exotics)