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Edited by K1dP5ycho: 12/19/2017 2:07:47 PM
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Star Wars, Destiny And Why Fandoms Are Cancer

Has anybody been paying attention to what has been happening with the new Star Wars movie, lately? If not, the basic idea is that a section of the fanbase is acting like a bunch whiny children, doing everything in their power to try and alter or remove The Last Jedi. Bad reviews, harassing the director, petitions to have the movie removed from the Star Wars canon... it's quite a rancid mess and, frankly, it's a stupid one too. The film itself is actually a great one! Instead of following the textbook Star Wars experience that The Force Awakens did, which led to many considering it to be too cookie-cutter, they went for new ideas and a different experience that still held itself within the Star Wars universe. However, the complaints are now shifting and are focused on how the new film is [b]too[/b] different, giving way to further (and rather incorrect) criticisms about the plot, characters and other elements of TLJ. Funny. Isn't that what has been happening to Destiny 2? Because, y'know, the game is full of new concepts and ideas. It tries to create a new experience while maintaining its connection to the Destiny universe, making it a unique game of its own standing next to the original... and it works! It feels different and exciting to play, but still has that Destiny vibe that players enjoy. However, the vocal majority of you won't have it for some reason. You all slander and accuse Bungie of making D2 too different, pointing out X flaw or Y mistake like it deserves to be a big deal. Even the posts about Eververse, the service that is 100% optional and full of nothing but cosmetic items that you can get for free by simply levelling up, are just inflated and disproportionate complaints being used to attack Bungie. I get it, both fanbases are [b]passionate[/b] and [b]dedicated[/b] to both Star Wars and Destiny... but there has to be a line somewhere in the sand, one that should never be crossed. You cannot just demand and carry on like a ravenous horde, creating wild and unrealistic expectations for the kind of movie/game you want and getting mad that you didn't get it because the makers wanted to try something new. Another thing of note is that both Rian Johnson and Bungie are fans of their own creations. They want to make something for the rest of us to enjoy and have fun with. They get that not everyone will be happy with everything in their works, but that does not mean that they deserve to be harassed and treated like garbage because someone with a keyboard has a huge grudge over Bounties being turned into Challenges and placed on each Destination, to be cycled over randomly, or that Kylo Ren's scar is not in the exact same spot it was in the movie from two years ago, despite the fact that it actually is there but gradually being healed and repaired. What I am trying to say is that it is high time that this community finally stops its incessant whining, actually work with Bungie in making D2 better and then strive to help other people enjoy it as much as we do. No more upvote threads. No more "<---- this is how many people" threads. No more behaving like rude neanderthals with superiority complexes. Real, constructive feedback. Geniune support for Destiny and Bungie, because [b]we want the game to actually succeed, not to fail.[/b] Accepting new players into our community and making it as friendly and fun as possible. This is what truly needs to happen. [spoiler]TL;DR Version: Stop being such rude shits and start acting like civilised human beings. Destiny 2 is a fun game and can only improve if the fanbase actually act the part and offer their feedback without being total losers all of the time.[/spoiler]

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  • Gotta disagree on this one. Even though I loved TLJ... The problem with Destiny 2 (from a fan's perspective, mine) is that if you hold the 2 games up next to each other without titles, D2 seems like the predecessor. That's an issue. There's just no arguing that they made the game more 'accessible' and dumbed it down a bit, to the point it became somewhat bland and more difficult to stick with for extended periods... I get what you're saying about fandom and crybabies - and I agree with you. I still play Destiny 2 a lot. But it's not so much different from Destiny 1 as it is just... less...

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    • Star Wars TLJ was complete garbage. The jokes and “story”. Cringe and shaking my head like wtf is going on. The visuals were obviously good but the content was garbage. On the same note, Destiny’s visuals are good but content is garbage. Both directors need to be fired. Rian needs to apologize to luke

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      • The Last Jedi is objectively shit. I mean it’s no more than a 6/10 movie.

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        • Edited by NOiSEA: 12/20/2017 2:46:54 AM
          I have not met anyone who didn’t like the Last Jedi in real life. I wouldn’t be surprised if a couple greasy faced boys in their basements turn out to be using bots to overload the user review scores with negative reviews. Where are these people in real life? Not only do real people seem to love it, but they seem to be more excited about it than the previous recent SW films. People were standing up cheering in the theatre and it got a standing ovation at the end in the showing I went to... Theres something very fishy with the online review scores.

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          • [quote] giving way to further (and rather incorrect) criticisms about the plot, characters and other elements of TLJ.[/quote] This is a joke, right? There are SO many issues with the plot of TLJ that it's got to be a joke. Like the movie or not (which I mostly did, that hyperspace / THAT fight scene were the best parts of Star Wars to me!) you cannot say there isn't serious issues with almost every single scene, and every subplot. Almost every character was a mess with no real direction or purpose, so you are 100% wrong there as well.

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          • Edited by BoomboxCollosus: 12/20/2017 8:19:04 PM
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkD6VDrkfP8 CLICK ABOVE. It's officially NOW an actual legal issue. Bungie Issues Lazy Response to Broken Destiny 2 Features... Again. 5 more states rebel against the increasingly PREDATORY gambling simulation of developers. Plus.... DAMN...finally someone says it how it is. "Proof that this is developed as an FPS gambling simulator" with real life concerns. "5 More US States Join the Fight Against Loot Boxes" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkD6VDrkfP8 Developers have become vultures and this HAS TO BE fought against. I've been saying this for awhile. Guess what, it's a for real thing with legal ramifications now. The ELEPHANT has been addressed. This isn't a sad, pretentious fanboy issue anymore. You're mom just busted you doin the deed and you have no excuse in the REAL world at this point. Concede and move on.

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            • You're wrong . ther is ACTUAL legal and moral concerns that are way more real than you post. It's all here. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/240714464?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1

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            • The game IS NOT full of new concepts and ideas , that’s a core problem . Another problem with destiny 2 is bungies need to restrict everything , slow recharge , countless useless exotics . Bungie refuse to meet their potential at every turn .

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              • [quote]exciting to play[/quote] You lost me right there...

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              • You are what we call "fanboy", if your defending this piece of shit of a company. Something is seriously wrong with you, if you enjoy getting scammed. Go play SCGO and buy a bunch of "skins" for virtaul weapons that all look the same.

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              • 😂😂 plz... 😂😂😂 stop 😂😂😂😂 joking 😂😂😂😂😂 New ideas? 😂😂😂😂😂 Now.....is the time to get together and work with bungie??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 [spoiler]TLDR... you.... stop being a shit. Destiny 2 is like your post[/spoiler] [spoiler]its shit[/spoiler]

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              • [quote]the game is full of new concepts and ideas[/quote] Excuse me? Where?

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              • The issue with your post is that you do not acknowledge that Destiny 2 doesnt "provide a new experience" but instead is 100% garbage compared to d1.

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              • Are you stupid? Star Wars is good, Destiny is not. You can’t compare them.

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                • +1

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                • Coming from someone who isn't a fan boy I think the new Star wars was the best one yet!!!

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                • I'm a Star Wars fanboy. I hate The Last Jedi. But it is what it is. I've had my fun watching hilarious videos from people who also took issue with the movie. but time to move on.

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                • Yeah...no. We did all that constructive stuff. All we’ve got in return is a game that no longer caters to the core fan, a loot table heavily tooled towards PvP, making them bland and uninspired, a shader system completely upended just to sell a handful via the cash shop, a void and pointless endgame, a progression system intentionally throttled to funnel players into the cash shop, one of the most phoned-in expansions seen in gaming, gating off already paid-for content through said so-called expansion, nerfing one of the most sought after guns in the sequel thus far, and releasing an in-game consumable that doesn’t work. And after all that, you still want us to be positive?

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                  • You can't compare the two. Destiny 2 is not really a new experience. It is a watered down version of D1 with the exact same characters and from the looks of it, 90% of the gear will be watered down versions of D1 gear. That is part of the problem. The worlds are new but most of it plays like a stripped down version of D1. That is not what I would call new. The only experience is seeing most of the good, FUN, parts of Destiny simply taken away from the players. Star Wars is a whole different animal and you could never ever compare Bungie and Destiny to it. Star Wars has some actual greatness along the way, Destiny could never achieve that level due to ineptness and shortsightedness of the developer...

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                  • Well said

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                  • Edited by Atomic: 12/19/2017 10:55:47 PM
                    Not comparable because D2 actually sucks and is a display of bungie's disregard for their playerbase after they threw all the changes into the toilet nothing is unique it was made for profit and only profit

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                    • For the love of god, why, just why. I am so triggered that I can’t like the post more. Fandoms are garbage and ruin everything, they ruined Halo, Destiny, Undertale, Starwars, and so many other things for me, if it’s weird fan art, scream man children, or fan fictions, they ruin everything. THANK YOU, soooo much! Why can’t I like this post more.

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                    • Snoke is every YouTube Star Wars Fan Theorist... And it’s absolutely why I love Rian Johnson’s writing and “The Last Jedi”

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                      • The problem is trying to cater to everybody to maximise profits $$$ Bungie made D2 way too casual friendly and overbalanced, and upset their core players. Disney made The Last Jedi in such a way so that people who arent SW fans will like it, and upset the fans who know they story should not have gone that way.

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                        • Edited by xpctR3sistanc3: 12/19/2017 4:06:18 PM
                          [quote]It feels different and exciting to play[/quote] False. This is one of the things people have been bitching about since release. Different? Yes. Exciting (objective, I know) not at all. [quote]actually work with Bungie in making D2 better and then strive to help other people enjoy it as much as we do[/quote] Also unlikely to happen, as they've shown they are going to do what Luke thinks is best for the game, and they're not going to admit any time they're wrong. They admitted that a few times during D1, and it bit them in the ass. This time around, I'm sure they view it as the players who are wrong...

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                        • Your not wrong. I just said the same thing to a friend while playing this weekend. They said they heard xy & z about the new Star Wars. I replied, hey man it’s just like Destiny. Everyone has their own idea of what it should be like and when it doesn’t match what they had in mind they get mad. What has happened with the movie can’t be changed with fans. But the game can change a bit you’re right about that. However the anonymity of the internet will always being what we’ve been seeing forever now.

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