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12/23/2017 2:11:55 PM
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Hey UN leaders can you please forget about famine, poverty, war torn countries, global warming,natural disasters and any other serious real life issues to address this video game please.
Seriously get a grip on life and what matters. I get that people don't like eververse but this is the most ridiculous post I've seen about it.
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When i see these kind of very well done posts, and i read the comments of those taking it super serious, I often wonder what it feels like to not be able to sense the tone of a post and to ascertain wether its bait,satire, sarcasm or whatever. How do you function in life?
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Edited by FRANK WHITE 30: 12/23/2017 5:29:46 PMFunctioning just fine over here & having fun with the thread.☺️
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I agree with you that there are much more important issues for them to address first but this is much more important than simple micro transactions in a video game. It's about large corporations manipulating the system to screw over the little guy, it's about underage gambling, it's about us as a community coming together and saying enough is enough and if we don't do it now the situation will just get worse and worse. Because corporations won't think twice about the morality of a action if they think they can get away with it and make money at the same time.
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[quote]I agree with you that there are much more important issues for them to address first but this is much more important than simple micro transactions in a video game. It's about large corporations manipulating the system to screw over the little guy, it's about underage gambling, it's about us as a community coming together and saying enough is enough and if we don't do it now the situation will just get worse and worse. Because corporations won't think twice about the morality of a action if they think they can get away with it and make money at the same time.[/quote] That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but I disagree with it. Game it rated T and it specifically says in the rating it may contain simulated gambling. I'm sure you've read the thread & don't need me to repeat myself regarding children, money and buying silver. Large corporations run the world and I don't care to be honest as it's the way of the world & something that will never change in our lifetime. They fund politicians & governments & get special treatment regarding tax breaks for example. It's all about money. I just continue to live my life, work, pay taxes, own my house and look after my family. I do however buy their products be it from Apple, Nike, Sony,Microsoft, Samsung to name a few and will continue to do so.
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Funny because the age restriction for D2 in the U.K. is 16 and the online gambling age restriction is 18. So that shit doesn't add up. You might be quite happy letting large corporations get away with the shit that they do and that's up to you. But if others aren't happy with the status quo why do you feel the need to chime in by belittling their actions?
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Edited by FRANK WHITE 30: 12/23/2017 6:17:34 PMYou know forums are for opinions right? For people to chime in like you come & chimed in here. I've not belittled anyone and as I live in the UK I know you can play the lottery at 16. Other forms of gambling are 18.
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So calling someone's post "ridiculous" isn't belittling? Yes you can play the lottery at 16, something I don't agree with and I know some MP's feel the same way because they have brought it up in the House of Lords. The bottom line is I can't imagine anyone in their right mind spending hundreds of pounds on things to make your avatar in a computer game look good. Especially when they already have spent money buying the game. But I know people that have done just that. And I know for a fact that their wages can't sustain that type of spending on imaginary items. The system is set up to pray on the vulnerable. Yes society has vulnerable people in far worse conditions that should take priority for the UN or whoever is there to lookout for them but shouldn't we as the Destiny community be looking out for one another?
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No it's not at all in my opinion. It's clearly a bait post and is a ridiculous notion. He wasn't offended and engaged with me & it's all good forum fun. I haven't, nor will spend any money at eververse because I don't need to. I have lots of bright dust saved & will buy all the armour if it doesn't drop through engrams. But if certain people can not live without said items in a game then they have bigger life issues and should get the appropriate help. Gambling is everywhere and unavoidable especially in the UK with a bookmakers in every estate, high street and all the betting apps. Personally I don't like the randomness of eververse and would prefer a more fixed store to get what we want. I don't think it's predatory at all though.
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The whole allure of gambling is predatory by nature. Your handing over money for nothing more than hope. The rational mind can analyse the chances of winning and work out in all reality your not going to get what you want and therefore just walk away. But gambling isn't designed to pray on the rational mind it's the vulnerable that it goes after. The people who hope more than they think. And there are plenty of people like that otherwise gambling would not be such a big business. The trouble with the rational mind is that in most cases it cannot empathise with the irrational mind and therefore can't see the problem for what it is.
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I heard they are protesting to make all games that contain lootboxes that can be bought rated for over 21
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Who is they?
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Exactly right, comparing real life issues with micro transactions in video games is sad to say the least. It’s an insult to people that can barely survive and having a decent meal is a luxury they can’t afford. There are many factors related to these issues and mass consumption/capitalism is certainly among the culprits. Addressing the UN for something like this is more than spat in the face of those who live in inequality every single day.
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Sad? Sorry but I totally disagree with you on this. Micro transactions are set up in a way that does not let you buy what you want, instead it is left to chance to what you get. In other words gambling. In the U.K. The age restriction for online gambling is 18 yet Destiny is only rated at 16. That means minors are being influenced in gambling and that alone I find unacceptable. Bungie and others like them have brought this shit upon themselves and quite frankly I don't think they will listen if it's just us voicing our opinions. So when you say: [quote]Comparing real life issues with micro transactions in video games is sad to say the least.[/quote] This is real life money people are spending therefore making it a real life problem. And the only thing that is sad is the fact that the situation has to come to this before Bungie thinks twice about the ethics involved.
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You can gamble at 16 in the UK. You can play the lottery & scratch cards.
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It is not ridiculous if we get bungie to notice
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Edited by FRANK WHITE 30: 12/23/2017 7:09:41 PMIt's ridiculous in comparison to what I listed as real world issues that the UN deal with. It's a T rated game in the USA & 16 in the UK & makes you aware of what it contains. Here's the wording Content is generally suitable for ages 13 and up. May contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling and/or infrequent use of strong language.
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The fact that children are getting ensnared by gambling culture is not a laughing matter. Children spend more time than anything else playing games like destiny with predatory systems. Our problem is not as big as a famine, but it is big as far as we are concerned and needs to be addressed.
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Who gives these children the money to buy the game, and buy anything within the game? Parents do. Kids can't have a credit card. Parents need to start taking notice & responsibility of what they're buying and stop giving kids their credit cards. Again it tells you in the rating what to expect from the game & if you ignore that as a parent then it's your fault.
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You cant use the argument "well parents gave them money" when a kid tries to buy cigarettes.
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Of course you can as without money you can't buy anything like cigs or alcohol. Children don't have disposable income & most get their money from parents. Some may have a paper round or Saturday job & earn a very small amount but they don't & can't work a proper job until they're 16 in my country. Once you turn 16 you can then play the lottery and legally gamble. Kids also can not have a credit/debt card as only adults can have those & that's the only way to buy silver.
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So if a kid walks into the store with their moms card they should be able to buy cigs or alcohol?
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Lol what has that got to do with anything I said? I'll answer you though and say no because the child is underage, it's illegal and the shop keeper would be prosecuted. This game is Rated T for ages 13 & up. It tells you it contains simulated gambling and is not illegal, predatory or ensnaring because it tells you in the rating what it could contain. No parents credit card=no silver.
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Thats the point tho. This game is equivalent to a time when children could buy tobbaco. That needs to change. Children should not be able to partake in something that stunts their psychological growth.
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[quote]Thats the point tho. This game is equivalent to a time when children could buy tobbaco. That needs to change. Children should not be able to partake in something that stunts their psychological growth.[/quote] Lol you're now talking garbage to try and give wieght to your argument. How is that equivalent to a game with loot boxes? Also you a qualified psychologist with case study proof of this? If you are let's see it.
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