Ok, let's break this down piece by piece: [quote]every piece of content will be behind a paywall[/quote] That is a bit extreme, and would only further exasperate this issue. If Bungie did this they would close their doors in a week. [quote]so mayhem would be gone behind a paywall (why give away a free mode when you have to pay people to build it?)[/quote] It is already built - was built in D1. D2 uses nothing different than D1 - same engine, same netcode, same base game architecture. All the stuff they are giving us back was literally patches they probably uploaded from D1 and tweaked with minimal effort. [quote]nightfall will be behind a paywall (to keep it relevant with ever increasing light levels)[/quote] It kinda already is - Prestige NF is a 330 activity. Need CoO to do that now. [quote] the leviathan raid will be gone behind a paywall or become obsolete.(remember in D1 when they didn't keep raids light relevant, i do)[/quote] D1 Year 3: All raids were made relevant. There is no reason Bungie could not continue that practice in D2 Year 1. No reason whatsoever [b]without[/b] shaking down customer's for more $$$. [quote] bungie needs to pay money to develop things, and businesses need to make a profit.[/quote] They did get paid. We paid them via game sales. That is why we paid them $60 for D2. That is why we pay more for additional content. [b][u]We already pay them for the content[/u][/b]. This is such a bullshit argument claiming they need MTX's to pay to develop content [b]since we already pay them for it!!!![/b] [quote]eververse sells cosmetic gear. nothing more, nothing less, and it also provides funding to the studio between expansions[/quote] Ghost Shells offer in game benefits that are not cosmetic. Also, the publisher provides budgets for the studio between expansions...so they can develop content for expansions. Once again, this is not making any sense. You can not claim that me paying more outside of what I am already paying is necessary because if I don't, I won't get the other stuff that also has a price tag on it. No other business does that. Netflix does not demand additional funds to see their specific shows, and claim if I don't pony up the cash they can't make additional content. [quote]Eververse paid for mayhem, masterworks, the dawning, and all the updates that well get for free, including private matches next year.[/quote] Wrong wrong and wrong. Mayhem was already a thing from D1, and since this game uses every resource D1 had, this has already a thing. Masterworks were being designed alongside CoO, so the argument that EV paid for it is ridiculous. D2 initial sales/preorders paid for it. Same with the Dawning. Same with all the updates since launch. And once again, Private Matches were a thing in D1, so it is already in play for D2. It just has to be patched in. [quote]for me personally. i would rather have eververse than have to buy membership, or premium access, or a DLC every month, which in the long run, will cost everyone more than eververse ever did.[/quote] D1 at launch had none of what you speak and did fine. Worked fine. There were content issues, but no MTX's of any kind. The only thing Eververse got us in D1 was the April 2016 update. Which was good. Bungie fixing their game should not be on us to pay for. That is on them. Don't make us pay for their mistakes. And let's be honest - this is Destiny Year 4. The level of mistakes they have made since launch are completely inexcusable. This is not what we should expect from Bungie. And let's be real here for a second: Bungie has a continuous pay stream already in place. Every DLC/Expansion is already monetized. How many more monetization's are they going to claim they need before this game is "finished"? So please continue your work as a member of the BDF trying desperately to justify Bungie's failings. It is actually quite entertaining watching you flounder.