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Edited by Archival Mind:
6/21/2018 12:33:24 PM
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The Grand Leviathan: Where We Are and Inconsistencies
<So I've been sitting on this idea for a while. Originally I was going to do "Where are we on the Dreadnaught" but shit's gonna change next year.
So I did this instead, with a little size comparison to boot... only because everyone argues with me when I say the Leviathan's only 1/3 the size of the Almighty.
Let's start off with the inconsistencies of the size of this ship. Artwork suggests this ship is -blam!-ing massive, and I mean -blam!-ing huge. The original concept art, you know the one, makes it look absolutely gigantic.
The game, on the other hand, makes it look way smaller. Tell me, do you think Spire of Stars is the uppermost part of the ship? Do you think Eater of Worlds takes you to the back end of the ship? They aren't.
The normal Leviathan raid takes place at the front edge of the city... nothing much to it.
It's the Raid Lairs that really -blam!- it up.
The final part of EoW takes place right before the third "ring" of the Leviathan's Maw. Maw means mouth for those who don't know. It's not the engine, which is at the back end of the ship. The size of Nessus is 60 km in diameter. Given the jumps we do from the Reactor to the Pulse things, the only way we could actually make it to the Third Ring is that ejector. That means the ejector fires us out at nearly 50 kilometers per second +/-. That's really -blam!-ing fast to make it to that area.
Spire of Stars takes place on the second highest spire, which is interesting because the Celestial Observatory makes it seem like it's the highest point. Well it ain't. There's one more spire, way higher up and further back along the ship.
No matter which way you slice it, we haven't even scratched the surface of this ship. Which is funny because we haven't even discovered the equal amount on the Dreadnaught.
Link to image: https://imgur.com/a/i2guWRY
Link to concept art:https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/007/419/941/large/dorje-bellbrook-db-destiny2-032.jpg?1506011056>
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You inspired me to do some Interneting. Supposedly, the Hive dreadnought is roughly around 3500km long. Now since the only Leviathan I know swims around and sinks ships with tentacles and too many forward pointing internal jaw/teeth sections to actually survive as an apex predator if you think about it too long, I compared the Hive ship to a 6705m long Hvar'kann-Class Kilrathi Dreadnought. [spoiler]I'm gonna need a bigger boat.[/spoiler]
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5 RepliesEdited by Sausage: 6/21/2018 9:17:40 PMThey should make leviathan a patrol zone and calus is the planet vendor lol Edit: I meant that as a joke but now that I think about it, that could actually be pretty cool
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14 RepliesFunny you mention the Dreadnought, that thing is absolutely enormous. The patrol area we had was miniscule by comparison, you could have an entire game focused on the Dreadnought and we [i]still[/i] wouldn't see everything. That said, it still needs to be destroyed somehow. Too tainted for us to use, to dangerous to leave around for the enemy to reclaim.
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1 Replysomeone below pointed out that the All mighty was half the size of Mercury in the end cutscene. and if you go to the director Nessus is bigger than mercury.
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3 RepliesThe inconsistency most likely stems from using pre golden age stats when measuring nessus. Until we know the exact sns total effects of vex conversion we can't be sure if the "real life" size is in any way close. It leaves the door own for this type of speculation to be very misleading.
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Every time I see the Leviathan all I can think is “Nom”
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1 ReplyThe leviathan also makes no sense how it’s supposed to eat full planets, yet it’s barely bigger than Nessus. Also, it doesn’t “eat” planets; If you look closely on Nessus, it’s just slowly sucking chunks of the planet from far away
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I hoped that the leviathan was bigger, I wanted it to be the best weapon in the galaxy. Because I think Callus is awesome. And dearly hope we see something of him in the new DLC.
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3 RepliesDid you eat the crayon afterwards ? hmmmm 🤔
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8 RepliesEdited by Cowabungus: 6/21/2018 7:29:00 PMDon’t use the real life Nessus for scale. The differences between the on in the game and irl are way off. The irl one is just a large comet out in space that is likely way too small and cold to support any type of flora. Also, bungie didn’t use much astronomic accuracy in this game compared to the last. For example the lack of land masses in game on Titan contradicts what we know of it irl seen from when we, as in NASA, landed a probe on it in 2005 and saw a solid surface on the moon.
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Makes sense, Almighty blows up stars, Leviathan eats planets. Last I checked stars are larger than planets in terms of mass.
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2 RepliesEdited by Star: 6/22/2018 12:06:11 AMWhat if really the reason it looks so massive in concept art and in game is because it's next to something that appears large but really isn't? Assuming Nessus in Destiny is 60 KM in diameter which I believe is accurate, the leviathan is really quite small. The Drednaught using this logic would actually be bigger than the Leviathan, or around the same considering it looks that large next to Saturn which is 116,438 KM.
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1 ReplyI guess mathematically it’s 1/3 but literally it isn’t. The leviathan is -blam!-ing huge. Spire of Stars jumping puzzle area, like you said, in eater of worlds we were only in the front of the ship.
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4 RepliesActually, why haven’t we had a crucible map on the almighty?
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wow we really need to look deeper into the levi though i have a feeling that what we've seen is all calus wants us to see
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3 RepliesWait, so you argue that the leviathan is only 1/3 the size of the almighty? Is your drawing not a little misleading then?
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would like to see legendary Leviathan ghost/ship/sparrow.
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1 ReplyI always though the laviathan was as big or bigger than the dreadnaught
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I must be watching too much One Piece cause I misread the title as "Grand Line". .-. Anyways, I don't think we'll ever be able to explore the Leviathan fully, nor the Dreadnaught, which is a shame because considering the size of those two. Maybe sometime in the future we'll be able to explore them more in detail.
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The other Spire is where Calus keeps his pet Ahamkara named Sparkles.
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1 ReplyThink the more potent question here is...who actually cares which is bigger in a game where we only see sections of things anyway? Right now, let alone In 2 years when D3 is released nobody’s going to be asking ‘hey do you know which is bigger?’ 😂
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3 RepliesI’m really disappointed that we never got to see the Bridge, which is what I imagine the tallest Spire is.
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5 RepliesUm... so where in this post do you support the claim of the Leviathan being 1/3 the size of the Almighty?
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22 RepliesDoesn’t matter. The “narrative” “team” will retcon the whole thing soon, anyway.
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1 ReplyI Think the leviathan will have be a huge part of the story when the emptyness/Nezarec/pyramid ships show up
