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"Diversity is okay, so long as it isn't forced" is the new "Some of my best friends are black!" It doesn't hide homophobia any more than that hid bigotry. And explain to me how you display someone is queer without, you know, showing they're queer? I mean, no one ever says when a man and a woman kiss that we're forcing heterosexuality, do they?
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  • For me, I'm just irritated that they spent most of the time in the comic focusing on anas romantic life (regardless of sexual orientation, which I couldn't give less of a shit about), instead of focusing on something that is actually iinteresting, or at least look at topics the community wanted to delve into (Rasputin namely). No one asked for a romance story, and destiny isn't a universe that really accommodates that anyway.

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  • Edited by Shadowjack: 7/12/2018 3:54:17 AM
    Here's the thing though. Would you have minded if she'd had a boyfriend? You wouldn't have. I know it. The fact that you're ignoring how little of the story is actually about the romance-it's a pretty low percentage-to grind your ax on the romance tells me this.

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  • Well to be honest I didn't actually read the comic, I had just heard that the majority if the comic focused on their relationship.

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  • But they didn't.... Them being gay was like 5 pages tops out of the last 3 or 4 comics

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  • Forced diversity is actually a very bad thing. Not sure if this is the context this person is actually using it in, but forcing diversity through policy is not a good move. It's incredibly unfair that Harvard accepts a staggering lower number of Asian applicants as they did just 5-10 years ago. This is happening because they have "too many" Asian students for their target "diversity" requirement. So the solution was letting less of the qualified Asian applicants in so that they could achieve "more diversity". I hope saying you have black friends isn't an inherently bigoted statement now. Have it as part of a well fleshed out character history, not the focal point of the story. I'm not sure why sex should be the focal point of any Destiny story.

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  • If you don't get the context for "some of my best friends are black," then you don't need to be talking about diversity. Mind, your comments on school admissions sounds a lot like "Right Wing Talking Points About Affirmative Action", so I suspect I'm talking to a brick wall.

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  • That's kind of the point I was making. Context is absolutely everything. Saying that some of your friends are black is only a bigoted statement when it immediately follows something terribly bigoted being said. If that person just said something terribly bigoted I don't need them to follow it up with "some of my friends are black" to know that person is a racist and I don't want to associate with them. I find that phrase used far more as a talking point in which people refer to this theoretical wide reaching swath of racist people, when anecdotally I've never heard it used in that context. The few racist people I've run into in my life never tried to prove how "not racist" they were. Of course this is just my personal experience, the phrase obviously didn't come out of thin air so I'm sure it's been used plenty before. I just don't believe the average person is a raving bigot who hates people based on immutable characteristics. I've got a lot of beef with the college system. It's way too much of a business now. Objective #1 for every college is to make money. I think we desperately need to get away from that and make getting a higher level education affordable and more obtainable for the working class families. Aside from that, if thinking that students that apply to college should get in on their merit, not based on the color of their skin is a "Right Wing" view then I guess you can paint me with that brush. Although, it's quite an assumption based on one comment. I'd prefer if college applications had serial numbers instead of names, sex, hometown, and race. That way there could be no discrimination during the application process. Of course there is still much work to be done on providing people with more of an equal opportunity earlier in their lives in terms of access to resources and education. That would help get people on a more even playing field in educational opportunity leading up to applying for college. At the end of the day, I want the best and brightest to be getting into the most challenging and influential fields. What sane person wouldn't want that?

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  • I think I agreed with absolutely every single statement in that comment. I believe college admission should be based on merit, but I also kind of support affirmative action because some people, like many minority's, are born with significant disadvantages in terms of education and opportunities-- affirmative action is a way to level the field a little. However, it's a difficult balancing act.

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