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1. When's the last time someone thought about killing themselves because they were straight? 2. When's the last time a young boy or girl prayed that god would make them gay? 3. When's the last time someone was ostracized from their entire family and friends for being straight? 4. Ana's inclusion as a lesbian/bi female is a message from Bungie to LGBTQ players in their community. The message is [u][i][b]you are welcome here.[/b] [/i][/u] 5. People used to get upset like this when an interracial couple was shown on television. Don't worry, 20 years from now you'll have a whole new social issue to be bigoted about. 6. I am a 40 year old cisgen straight white male, before you make any assumptions.
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  • Lmao stop acting like gays are the only ones who get it bad! I MYSELF was rejected by friends and family. I MYSELF prayed to be different. I MYSELF got bullied throughout school and out of it too. I HATE seeing crap like this. Cuz guess what? You don't see me waving flags and going on parades. I got the hell over it and moved on. This is part of life. Not everyone will accept you. [spoiler]for anyone wondering, im a xenophile[/spoiler]

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  • Strawman much!? When did I ever say the LGBTQ community are the only ones to have it bad. I'd explain intersectionality to you but we should start with curing your mouth-breathing.

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  • I didnt say you said that. 😂 listen i dont wanna argue with a fellow guardian im just saying it makes me mad when people talk about that communities problems so much. Cuz there are people with sexualities like mine, who never get acknowledged

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  • You’re eliksnisexual, aren’t you?

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  • Im a xenophile 😂

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  • You're a child.

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  • Where'd you draw that conclusion? 😂 oh no! My sexuality has been attacked! U said im a child! Ur saying xenophiles are children!

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  • 1: Most recent I can think of someone slightly famous is August Ames. Caved in due to people like you calling them homophobic. 2: You wouldn’t pray to be gay. If you’re not gay, and you want to be, you just do it. There’s nothing stopping you. 3: And this is where you missed the point. This isn’t saying that LGBTQ+s don’t still have issues like this. The issue is people pushing their SJW agendas onto everyone so they can make a few dollars. Nowhere in the post or DW’s video does it say LGBTQ+ discrimination isn’t a problem, just that the forcing of SJW agendas needs to stop. 4: I agree with this all. The problem is how they do it. Instead of giving Ana an amazing story with great depth, they dwell on the fact that she’s lesbian for too long. It would be okay if it was a background trait, but it’s really one of her [i]only[/i] traits. 5: How am I being a bigot? If anything, you’re the bigot here. I’m trying to give constructive feedback on how not to develop a character, and you get all defensive, then call me names. 6: I don’t care who you are. You could be a 16 year-old lesbian transgender black woman and I would have a peaceful, constructive conversation with you.

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  • [quote]How am I being a bigot? If anything, you’re the bigot here. I’m trying to give constructive feedback on how not to develop a character, and you get all defensive, then call me names.[/quote] That's the progressive way, my dude. Seriously.. you could denounce Bill Cosby for committing those sexual assaults and they'd label you a racist.

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  • I like this guy and agree. SJWs are a -blam!-ing plague. I don't give a shit what you are, do, want to be, don't want to be, what cereal you eat, or anything else. BE PEOPLE! People will stop giving a shit when you -blam!-ing morons stop FORCE-PREACHING IT! Look a snowflake just ate his own dick... let's make up another PRONOUN everyone should be forced to use so they/it/them/tho doesn't chow down on the rest of the meatballs cuz she's gonna need them to become a reverse zygote. Give it a rest and stop forcing your SJW snowflake induced bullshit...you just make Trump right. Love you...

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  • Snowflake, SJW, call me what you want. I rather be any of those things than you any day of the week. Special cuddles!

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  • See kids...THIS is how you earn your participation trophy; don't forget, everyone is aways the 1st best winner.

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  • Peaceful? You don't realize the harm in your all caps FORCED. You need to think about the impact your words have. It's unfortunate ONE person killed themselves for being a bigot, but to compare that to the thousands of kids dealing with open hostility to who they are, not who they want to be, WHO THEY -blam!-ING ARE! You're the most dangerous kind of bigot, because you think you're not.

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  • Something is forced when the only reason it’s there is to bring in some extra profit and push your political agenda. If you made Ana Bray straight, she would be the least interesting character in the -blam!-ing world. And that’s an issue. Ana can be lesbian, but the character needs substance beyond that. Not that being lesbian is a bad trait to have, but when it is the [i]only[/i] trait a character has, it feels forced, like the character is only there to say “Look! We’re progressive! Putting a strong, independent, lesbian woman in our game! Pre-order now!”. It’s taking advantage of LGBTQ+ to make extra money. I won’t touch on the the subject of you thinking I’m a bigot again. If you think I’m a bigot, good for you, you’re entitled to your opinion. But you need to realize that someone isn’t a mother-blam!-er just for disagreeing with you. At least giving thought to what the other side thinks will go a long way.

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  • Cute attempt to spin your hate.

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  • Bro you're making no sense, he has no hate anywhere in his post. Her sexuality is fine either way, we don't care! You're right, that [i]would[/i] be outright bigotry if it were true, but it's not. It's okay to be gay. He's just saying it's a problem that the defining characteristic of Ana is her sexuality, which seems forced and only tacked on to appeal to certain political ideologies. Also, in a way it kinda degrades and dehumanizes, because they didn't even bother to give her much depth, emotions, or humanization- they just slapped the term "lesbian" on her and decided that was enough. I doubt real-life lesbians would like people to boil them down to single word identifiers, as if their whole being can be encapsulated in one word and the rest is insignificant.

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  • It’s OP’s interpretation of it, as I mentioned in my previous comment. OP thinks it’s Bungie trying to be “SJW” so they can pull in a profit. My interpretation....a character in a video game I play is gay, so what alien do I shoot next? [spoiler]if OP thinks about the endgame of the argument, they’d be thinking like it’s 20 years from now where things like that are totally normal to see on tv and media. Which, to me they already are and my life hasn’t changed from it. So again... who cares?[/spoiler]

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  • One thing to mention, in addition to what you have said, is... Art (video games are art. Prove me wrong) is all about reception. One sentence written by an author, can be interpreted many different ways based on the audiences perception of the piece. This is why we have literary analysis classes. To teach people to think outside of the box

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  • Very true. Well said.

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  • cisgen???

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  • It means traditional gender identification. I act like a dude stereotypically acts.

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