I had a long reply and accidentally deleted it, fml. Anyways, TL;DR, Don't care if people are gay blah blah blah, forced diversity is when companies force people to throw in XYZ for the sake of "diversity", rather than the writers themselves wanting XYZ (typically resulting in walking stereotypes) or when individuals throw in the "victim classes" as too many seem to see them (litterally meaning everyone that isn't white, male and/or straight) merely to virtue signal, there are only 2 genders (because I want to see REEEs you've let me down internet!) And Ana being gay isn't a problem, IMO destiny handles diversity well (with the exception of white straight males. Doesn't bother me, but if we're doing diversity it should be actual diversity), just look at Wei ning and Devrim (I still cry he is just a British stereotype...the voice actor is gilleon from COD AW), but rather that there was a romance forced in all together. As flr the bit about soldiers, I'm not one of the idiots who hates soldiers, rahter the opposite. So long as someone is fit for duty by the national standards and isn't being let in because XYZ, I'm fine with them (I say that because just throwing people in could put lives at risk). Also, just saying, but even if I did hate gays or whatever, I wouldn't be stupid enough to try and tell a soldier not to be something. I'm not antifa burning the flag ;)

There is no such thing as "forced diversity". Just BAD ways of relating to HUMAN DIVERSITY. In employment...you just have people who are either lazy or bigoted employers. In art...you have people who are trying to tell stories that they haven't lived and that they don't understand...and therefore they cannot tell that story with any authenticity. As the jazz saxophonist Charlie Parker once said, [i]"If you haven't lived it, it won't come out through your horn." [/i] That is NOT the case with the Ana Bray story. Her story was well-told. It was just a story that some people--because of their prejudices---are uncomfortable with, didnt' want to hear... ...and this is their effort to put a socially acceptable **fig leaf** on that discomfort. This guy who grew up in a sheltered family, with a mother who went to Catholic convent school was uncomfortable with being around openly gay people at first. But I didnt't "blame" them for my discomfort....and I didn't just accept the Catholic Churches views on the subject. I read. watched. Learned...and decided for myself. They are not "sinners'. They rae not "evil". They are not "the dreaded other". They are (as this current Pope is finally acknowledging) not Children of a Lesser God. They're just **different**. ...and in time I just got over my discomfort, and realized that ----when left alone----they live and love, cry and bleed just like straight people. [b] That was the story that is being told through Ana Bray. [/b]

No, forced diversity is when "diversity" is forced, it's self explanatory. As an example, a writer is writing a character for a game and is told said character has to be White, that would be forcing "diversity". I agree that people shouldn't be seen as just x, y and/or z, that's why I hate forced diversity. If someone doesn't want to/isn't comfortable writing someone of x, y or z they shouldn't have to, as in the end of the day that x, y and/or z is merely an intrinsic trait, people don't need it to be able to identify or enjoy a character and forcing a writer to write that more often than not just ends up with the character being stereotypical/bad because the writer didn't know how to/wasn't comfortable with writing that character. As for Ana being well written, I agree. The 3rd novel however was not. The romance popped up out of almost no where, the character was completely new to the lore to my knowledge and as such took away from Anas achievements to attempt to build some sort of character. I didn't not like the character nor the romance because I'm a homophobe, as (for 1) that would imply I'm scared of gay people (why would I be?) And (for 2) that would imply that the relationship being a gay one would be intrinsically bad, which is definitely not the case in the destiny universe. Look to wei ning as a perfect example here. That character was perfectly written, as was the romance.

There is no "forced diversity". It only exists in the eyes of those who are uncomfortable with the diversity that IS the human condition. And the 'romance" didn't pop out of anywhere. It was hinted at the entire time.

(and my reply was again deleted) TL;DR, forced diversity is when people see others not as merely all humans, but as categories based on their race, gender etc and seek to move the numbers around so their is X #s of Y, X #s of Z etc disregarding skill, talent etc for the race and such. I don't care if the char is gay, gay characters aren't inherently bad and to be honest I don't care Ana is gay. I hated how the romance was done, it was slightly hinted at over the first 2 with the char being brought in in the second to do things we thought Ana did, share a kiss then die. It wasn't like Wei Nings, IMO, it sucked. Unlike Wei Nings it was rushed, and I never got why the other one cared ahout Ana at all, with the only explanation for Ana romantically caring being she was alone. Wei Ning is the perfect example in the Destiny universe of how to do gay characters.

Everybody’s voice deserves to be heard. Regardless of deployment status or gender based relationships status. The fact that you would bring deployed soldiers up, as a rallying cry, says something about your motives. Let them be, let them do their jobs, thank them when they return home, be grateful that our lives are so much better for their sacrifices. Make sure they know that when they return! Otherwise, leave soldiers alone. They are not pawns in either side, they are not tools to advance agendas. Any agendas, other than the lawful orders dictated by the officers appointed over them. NONE of that hinges on their sexual orientation OR their relationships.

[quote]The fact that you would bring deployed soldiers up, as a rallying cry, says something about your motives.[/quote] My motives are that everyone's voice deserves to be heard, and that everyone's story is worth telling. That every human's HUMANITY deserves to be respected and honored. What are YOUR motives...and why do you seem to be implying that gay soldiers somehow need to remain "closeted"? My point is what is being called (in the service of subtle prejudice) 'FORCED DIVERSITY"...is, in fact, the presentation of the REAL WORLD. There are gay soldiers who fight in our wars to protect the things and people they love....and some of the people they love happen to be of the same sex. Seeing them as "pawns" to be used is YOUR agenda. Not mine. To me they are simply human beings whose voices and stories deserve to be heard and deserve to be respected simply because they are human. They NEED no further "justification" for their presence, or their validity in being told. How 'bout you?

Let them tell their story. They don’t need corporate welfare to take up their cause. I have no agenda and agree that everybody’s story is a valid story, and one that I’ll listen to. I have NO duty nor obligation to agree with it though. Many things are collectively agreed upon as accepted that I have fundamental issues with. Drugs (legalization of), drinking any alcohol while driving, infidelity, to name just a few. But, when PepsiCo tries to tell me what their interpretation of those unique, individualized stories are, I immediately ignore everything they’ve ever said about that subject. Horse’s mouth, not agreed upon collective social group think. We are ALL different, we ALL have unique stories to tell. Categorizing them neatly and placing labels or stereotypes does a massive disservice to everyone’s story. It homogenizes it, into nothing more than room temperature oatmeal. I have a very fundamental and philosophical difference than you. When people disagree it doesn’t mean they wish less than well upon those they disagree with. It simply means: We ALL have unique stories to tell and we ALL have a right to our voices, opinions, and beliefs.

Only they have the right to decide who can and cannot speak for them. So, unless they complain or say they feel disrespected? All of us need to butt out and let whomever they are comfortable with speak. And I’m not hearing many gay people complain. But a shit ton of straight people started bitching the moment it became clear she was gay.

You are the most condescending prick I’ve seen in a while. Let’s start with this: No, not EVERYONE deserves to have their voice heard and respected. Respect is EARNED. Maybe you should go earn yours bud. A soldier in Iraq has earned my respect for doing a dangerous job. More so if he can do it well. Just existing as a gay man or women deserves ZERO respect. Most people base their opinions on who should be respected on merit, and this comic book holds none. It just cries “you’ll love it because the main character is gay!” Just because we have the freedom of speech does not mean you have to be heard all day everyday. I’m not asking for gays to be silent. I’m asking for people like you to shut the -blam!- up and let gays earn their respect like the rest of us and let being gay be another variable in what makes that person great. 🤘

Same to you. Don't ascribe evil motives to me (that are just your projected biases) and expect me to just politely accept them. Don't hurl shit at people, and then act all affronted when they pick it up and throw it back at you. Being gay is just part of being HUMAN...and ALL Humans deserve to be respected. Deserve to be heard AND DON'T NEED TO 'JUSTIFY" THEIR EXISTENCE. Your mileage may vary. Which it seems to.

I agree with this. But, I will remind you that you stated “ALL.” That means exactly that, ALL people, even those who have fundamental differences of beliefs when it comes to the non hetero verse.

I respect their humanity. Doesn't mean that I have to respect their ideas or their opinions. Respect for one's humanity and human dignity---in my way of being---is a given. Respect for your personality and your ideas----must be EARNED.