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Do you not see the hypocrisy of calling out one group of people for stereotyping; and then in the same turn call an entire group of people who voted for a person redneck, white supremacist, racists? This thinking defies all logic. I just need an answer. Why can you stereotype a group of people, but that group is not allowed to stereotype another.
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  • Edited by TheArtist: 7/12/2018 5:53:41 PM
    [quote]Do you not see the hypocrisy of calling out one group of people for stereotyping; and then in the same turn call an entire group of people who voted for a person redneck, white supremacist, racists? [/quote] Its only hypocrisy if somone actually believes that EVERYONE (without exception) is. I've never heard anyone on the Left actually say anything like that, and I'd call them out as an [b]idiot [/b]if they did. Even Hillary Clinton's "Basket of Deplorables" gaff didnt' make that accusation: [i]Speaking at a fundraiser in New York City on Friday, Hillary Clinton said half of Donald Trump’s supporters belong in a “basket of deplorables” characterized by “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic” views. “You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” [b]She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.” “Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well,” she said. [/b][/i] Clinton made the political gaff of actually getting caught saying what you think....even though its politically stupid to say. Frankly I think she hit the nail right on the head....but that doesn't change the fact that she WAS making a sweeping generalization...and it WAS something politically rather stupid to say in public. She was right about part of Trumps appeal coming from nakedly bigoted catcalls and appeals to "Demographic Panic". But she should have left that part out and focused on the OTHER half of that statement, and used it as a the basis for the POLITICAL MESSAGE that her campaign never really produced.

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  • So, just so I am sure of what you're saying, if you believe your statement to be true of all persons in that category than that is wrong to say. And sadly, being middle ground, I get to witness both sides of the fence spewing their rhetoric. A simple google search can return thousands of results on both sides calling each other the worst possible names imagined and using a blanket statement.

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  • Edited by TheArtist: 7/12/2018 6:26:49 PM
    [quote]So, just so I am sure of what you're saying, if you believe your statement to be true of all persons in that category than that is wrong to say. [/quote] Where did I say that I believed ANYTHING was true of EVERYBODY? What I SAID is that I agree with Sec. Clinton's politically ill-advised comment. That about half (about 25 % of the population) are authoritarians who found his catcalls to ethnic, racial, nativistic, and ideological animus to be appealing. Research shows that authoritarian followers make up about this percentage of the population and are MUCH more prone to kind of "authoritarian aggression" towards groups unlike themselves than other groups. THE OTHER half being people who are genuinely tired of the political status quo.....are feeling that the system is FAILING them as they work harder and harder each year for less and less. Like Sec Clinton....I EMPATHIZE with those Trump supporters...BECAUSE THEY'RE RIGHT. They are only guilty of being desperate for change..and making a bad choice. Because Trump is a narcissist, a shameless bigot, and a con-man. ...and we Progressives are partially to blame because we failed to give them a BETTER CHOICE. Sec. Clinton FAILED to give them a better choice. Because she was more concerned about adding another award to her trophy case, than she was in speaking to the needs of that struggling section of the working class voter. They've turned their back on Democrats....because Democrats turned their backs on them.

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  • Your opening sentence about hypocrisy. That’s where I’m taking my information from. I don’t think your opinion about where we’re at right now as a country is far off base at all. Democrats did not provide a candidate that would sway undecided republicans.

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  • That is hypocrisy. But my point is that I've never run into any Progressives who actually believe that. Only Conservative caricatures of Progressives, claiming that we do. Usually with the goal of wrapping themselves in a false, "oppressed minority" status...and to promote group solidarity on the Right in their usual Us vs Them manner.

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  • Are you asking why stereotyping people by their actions is different than stereotyping people by things they can't control like their skin color?

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  • Actions. Far right conservatives see Muslim actions and stereotype them all as terrorists. Far left liberals see a person who voted (action) for Trump and assume redneck/KKK member. Whats the difference between both parties? Nothing. They're both hypocritical, over opinionated assholes.

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  • The sun, is yellow. This banana is also yellow. What's the difference between the two? Nothing, they're exactly the same. Far right conservatives hate Muslims because they're brown. Just because they say it's their actions doesn't make it so. It was spelled out for you above. They conveniently forget all the light skinned Muslims.

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  • Right, so you didn't give me an example whatsoever of how it's not hypocrisy. You simply spewed your unintelligent, completely opinionated response. Can you, with complete confidence, say that every far right conservative hates Muslims because of their skin color? No, you can't. You made an assumption, which is what they do, which makes you two completely the same.

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  • It's not hypocrisy because you're a moron. The extremes are hypocrites, of course, every moron knows that except you. Unfortunately for you and your terrible opinion the two parties aren't just their extremes. Kelly green spelled it out for you.

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  • Lmao what a clever response. Kelly green didn't spell out shit and neither have you, except throw around insults further proving my point. You're the worst type of child, enjoy living in your one sited world.

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