Going to have to disagree. Sniping isn't meant to be a viable option all match long and at any range like it was in D1. Currently sniper rifles are really good in the hands of good snipers and that's how they should be.
In the current ammo economy they're also balanced well because it's more difficult to only sit back and snipe all match long since you have to push for ammo.
If you want pointers on great sniper rifles and how to use them, I'd recommend the newest episode of Crucible Radio with Joverated guesting.
As for shotguns, they're as easy to counter as they've ever been and probably the easiest since vanilla D1. There are so many great options to deal with them. Cammycakes put up a great video on it the other day, recommend giving it a watch.
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Shotguns in this game have the shortest range in all of FPS.
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Its been a long time since i've played another shooter like call of duty or battlefield steadily. I can only refer to whats going on in destiny PvP right now. In this game the shotgun range on pellet shotguns seems to be a bit overpowered. I use shotguns half the time in the energy slot as an anti-shotgun measure or as an "oh-sh*t" button. I prefer using a fusion-rifle as an energy weapon offensively and defensively though. BUNGIE, WHERE's MY SUSANOO?!! I miss the days you used to hear pocket infinity firing off in the background in PvP. It used to be so funny every time i heard that.
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Shotguns aren’t OP. You just have a game where, for the last year, shotguns were basically removed from the game. So people have forgotten how to deal with them. New players never learned. People who prefer more passive play styles didn’t have to deal with them. We have been down this road before. It only leads to a broken game.
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I have no idea how they control anything. We have our own primary, energy and heavy weapons. Actual grenades that can kill. Class abilities, jump abilities... Hell run Telesto if shotguns are that big a problem for you. You don't even have to shoot them. Just lay the shots on the ground and let them kill themselves charging you.
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then i would have to ask you do you play competitive? Cause try and push for a charge or breakpoint plate without a shotgun. Shotguns lock down chokes and objectives to an extreme level if you dont use one yourself. And even if you use one yourself its tradekills 50% of the time and the other is just based on ping. Also, i strictly said that it comes in regards of YOU pushing or trying to gain control over objectives. I deal with -blam!- shottys charging me all the time with Lunas Howl. The problem arises when you have to actually rotate and or push for objective based play. Even if you chunk someone and they back off, it is nie impossible to push yourself and finish them off as you will get instad as soon as you round the corner.
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That's not a weapon balance problem. That's a map/design problem. When you start balancing weapons around game modes you get D1 over 3 years into D2. That's not good.
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I’ve been saying this^^
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You should be able to use a sniper a rumble. Go watch other games in FFAs. Snipers are a viable option, why are they not in Destiny?
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Map design and game modes.
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Lol what? Shotties are easier to counter now than they’ve ever been haha yea right but what can you expect a shotty ape........There is currently no gun that deal with apes like the Last Word did for example.
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Apes? What is that?
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It’s what the community calls people who mindlessly run around trying to shot gun people .
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Edited by Floppyceto: 10/11/2018 5:11:06 PMThis is comical!! What weapon are you allowed to use that isn't going to hurt someones feelings?
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You can use them but we’ll make fun of you for using them.
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Edited by Floppyceto: 10/11/2018 7:32:35 PMPeople are mad if you use shotguns, Telesto, Sleeper, tracking rockets, swords, shoulder charge, Graviton, Vigilance Wing, Crimson, snipers and panic supers. LMFAO, I mean what is left to keep the tears and hurt feelings away?
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Down pillows? You just have people who can’t handle [i]losing.[/i]
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No one is crying, people just want more viable options when it comes to the crucible, we want snipers to be more in line with what they were in D1.
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That’s going to require different [i]map designs.[/i] What you are complaining about is not a weapon balance problem. You are trying to use tactics that go against the design of the maps.
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My point is IF a change is made to snipers then the crying and hurt feelings will start, just like with all of the other stuff I mentioned. I have never seen a community so enamored with how other people play or what weapons that they use! it's soooo stupid that it's funny!! Whatever though!!
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"Shotties are easy to counter" "There is currently no gun that deal with apes like the Last Word did for example" DeRp
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Shotguns are easy to counter if you know how create space and control distance to slow a rush. TLW was the best primary weapon for dealing with shotguns when you’ve [i]failed[/i] to do what I said in the previous sentence and have a rusher in your face. Yes?
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Is there though? Exactly .
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Yes!!! I’m loving this feedback. Sniper are fine! Don’t get me wrong I support certain YouTubers, but stop trying to make bungie cater to your needs.
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[quote]Don’t get me wrong I support certain YouTubers, but stop trying to make bungie cater to your needs.[/quote] Are you children still blaming Youtube/Twitch? I didn't see them in here crying nerf all through D1. I saw droves of people straight up stop playing D2 in the beginning, which [i]happened[/i] to include people that stream. You brats need to come down off your high horse and realize that Youtube and Twitch aren't the reason that you're bad at the game. Get the -blam!- over yourselves.