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Edited by A_dmg04: 4/10/2019 8:28:14 PM
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Continued Enhancement Core and Mod Component Discussion

Hey all, A few weeks back, we talked about Enhancement Cores coming from Gunsmith bounties in the [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/47706]TWAB[/url]. I wanted to give a quick update on this, as it also involves Mod Components, which have been a topic of discussion as well. Please note- this is all still in development for Season of Opulence, and could change. [quote]• Originally announced in the TWAB, these bounties would cost Gunsmith materials. This has been changed to Glimmer. • There will be multiple daily bounties to complete, each rewarding one enhancement core and two mod components • There will be two weekly bounties to complete. These will each grant one enhancement core, one mod (Weapon or Armor), and other materials or reputation/rank points depending on the objective of the bounty. • Note: When I say rank points, think Valor or Infamy, **not** Glory.[/quote] The team is continuing to evaluate feedback over mod components, enhancement cores, and rewards all up. Thank you for the continued feedback. We'll give you updates as we have them.
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  • It's not discussion if you ignore feedback and continue along the same path.

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  • Man there's a lot of anger in this thread. I didn't think the enhancement core was that bad. I get them on a pretty usual basis

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    • Edited by SR_MEC: 4/13/2019 5:33:54 PM
      This is not a continued discussion, we said get rid of cores and you give a lame excuse why you are not getting rid of them. So I really don’t care what “you” say since what your doing is not best for the community. So yeah......... do better. There is no reason this game can not dominate if you make smart changes and really good content. Not this C+ plus content.

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    • Take them out

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    • Edited by TripleF73: 4/13/2019 3:07:17 PM
      https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/bcr2ki/enhancement_cores_the_only_way_to_make_bungie/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app Vote with your feet, it’s the only way we will finally be heard.

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    • Howdy y'all! Arthur Morgan from Red Dead Redemption 2 here and I gosta ask y'all a quetion.... Could y'all toss me and ma gang a few o' dem enhanc-a-majiggy cups... err, whatever the heck y'all call em? Our horses just ain't been right lately and we been hearin great things 'bout y'alls enchantment cuffs...? Dang it all! I still don't think I'm sayin it right....oh, whatever! We just want our dad-gum horses to feel more meaningful when we impact.....full force into a tree! Sincerely yours, A guy from a really fun game 😉

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    • Here’s a fantastic idea for Enhancements cores and other materials/consumables Have planetary chests give more than just Glimmer/planetary materials and the rare weapon/armour or shaders. Add Enhancement cores, mod components, Gunsmith material (in bulk 10, 25, 50) random mod (weapons or armour) random. Consumable like rainmaker etc...... obviously would still be able to get the previous stuff and not every chest will rain everything. They would be a scaling (if that correct wording) on how often you get stuff and then quantity. Maybe even add bounties that give a ton of stuff. Just a random thought as collecting chests to only get Glimmer and materials 99% of the time makes them pointless

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    • (Hi, first off I want to let you know I appreciate the hard work it takes to balance and maintain a MMO economy, and i appreciate all the hard work of the Devs. I know a lot of passionate people here are going to be less polite, but the majority of players do know you work hard, but just don't necessarily say it.) Having possibly three guaranteed cores a day if each bounty is completed is a step in the right direction, however the One you get for a weekly bounty is a bit low. a bundle of no less than five should be the reward for the weekly bounty. I understand that the genie is out of the bottle and enhancement cores are not going to go away, but i think Passive ways of earning them, that do not include random drops would be preferred. for example, you could earn one or more at a time by: leveling up every time you earn a powerful engram by a daily or weekly challenge when you earn a clan bounty complete a raid complete Icora's weekly challenge. Taking time to go to the tower to fill up on bounties to do is becoming a bit tedios and starting to stretch enjoyment of the game as it becomes more os a checklist of things to do. i can see the intention of the cores was to make sure that a masterwoked item or even a set as something thats rare and special, but it takes so long to get them for the adverige player that by the time they have enough to upgrade one or two characters to max light with all their preferred weapons and armour, the next power cap comes around and all the players work is made useless. Its made leveling up no longer exiting, but a stresful exercise. Not to mention that its fantastic that there is so much good loot now, meaning you can have different sets for PvP, PvE and Gambit, the lack of cores makes it impossible to keep all that to a good level, let alone masterworked. At the end of the day the cores just make the game feel un-fun and a anxios element of the game. the same way when shaders where one use only. I cant tell you how much more i enjoy playing with looks and shaders now i can re buy them from my collections tab. I hope these notes where useful but the tldr is that the cores grind a sense or ownership and fun to a halt, and if they aren't going to go away they should drop reliably every time you pick up and play rather than turn up every so often from an esoteric sauce. cheers

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    • Give us like 7 enhancement cores for a weekly bounty. It’s just depressing seeing a weekly bounty give 1 enhancement core. Also what loot is in that weekly bounty? Gunsmith? World gear? Or any other faction gear? Regardless of what it is, make them have a chance to drop fully masterwork weapons and armor. Just a chance.

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    • Please keep the scrapper bounties. Thanks

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      • I've asked this before, but I'll ask again. Why are scrapper bounties being removed? Just leave them in ADDITION to the new gunsmith bounties. More sources=less problems...since the dev team is being super stubborn about removing them from enhancement.

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        • Seeing these threads since the announcement of enhancement cores. I see 2 issues. 1)Some People either have to choose between infusion or Masterworking or 2) Some People have an abundance(which the glitch enhanced) of cores To those who fall under 1. You are making them choose twice instead of once. They may have a weapon they want to master work or a piece of armour they want to infuse. But typically they can't get both. Which is overly punishing. Cause they can either go up a level or they can stay at the same level and make their weapon more useful to themselves and team mates. Those who fall under 2 don't care and are never going to have a meaningful choice which makes this pointless. You probably should look for a way to not double dip on currency and choose a solution that actually makes it meaningful and exciting to do. Something that is not going to remove a multitude of options cause you made the one choice for progression.

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        • Remove all core from infusion. The community is unanimous in this.

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        • There is no discussion on either side. They are keeping cores, you don't want cores. This aint going to change, vote with your feet and go play something else. If enough of you do it then you might see change, other than that it aint going to happen.

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          • Have Spider sell cores at a SET price of 10 legendary shards. At that rate Infusion wont be an issue and players can also +10 masterwork a lot more weapons as a side benefit

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            • Edited by angrybunny: 4/13/2019 12:59:12 PM
              Rolling out a less than exciting event with mediocre rewards, and rehashing an exotic quest for...reasons? That combined with the "play it our way or GTFO!" mentality surrounding the core fiasco is going to start a second exodus of players. I left at the start of warmind and didn't come back until months into Forsaken, and I'm getting ready to walk again, because I'm sick of being locked into one specific loadout because of cores. Fix this BS before the next big expansion. I promise if you use core removal as a selling point for whatever cash grab season pass comes next you'll loose even more players.

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            • This is an awesome move in the right direction. Ignore the salt. this is good news.

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            • Be better, Bungie.

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            • I’m sorry, but at this point, Bungie should have gathered all the feedback that their team needs to make the appropriate changes. This has been going on for several months. Enhancement cores need to go. Period. The recently exploit only made matters worse, and the way that was handled was a complete & utter disaster. People needing to wait to claim pinnacle weapons that they grinded their tails off for, which were really the only new things to chase this season, is totally unacceptable. The community as a whole has spoken, and it’s crystal-clear as to what we want. It’s time that Bungie finally admitted that this was a failed infusion system, and then make the necessary adjustments ASAP.

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              • Remove cores from infusion. Leave them for masterwork only. In fact make masterwork a more meaningful choice by having more customisable options; remove the multiple cores needed for masterwork and replace them with different types of cores for different stat improvements. Make them hard to get. Your design choices for the player to customise and keep using the gear they like, is outdated. Other games do this better. Getting to keep using the armour and weapons I like, without a pointless barrier to upgrade only their light stat, is a good thing. Apart from gambit and Iron Banner, the light metric falls under the law of diminishing returns. When you exceed the minimum required for an activity then everything is scaled. So why protect it behind this pointless grind. Grind and difficulty should be for those stats that have a powerful effect.

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              • Hey bud, my addition to the discussion is that I haven’t played in months, and it’s mostly to the mindless grind of Black Armory, including the stubbornness to die on the hill of defending “enhancement cores”. Money talks, and it should be communicated that mine has walked due to this issue. No one wants chores in a game that is supposed to be fun. I understand the lengthening of game time because a tiny portion of the player base wants to completely no life this game as some form of escape from life’s problems (I’ve done it), but cores crosses an invisible line into inane tedium that was enough to break my addiction to this game. Cheers ;)

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                • I haven't played D2 in months now. I'm kinda upset after purchasing your season pass. And you guys have NOT given me a reason to play any of the dlc I purchased. Please there's nothing to discuss just get rid of the enhancement cores so I can at least play and enjoy what I purchased.

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                • You guysssssss suuuuuuuckkkkkkkkkkkkk

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                  • When the community steps away from this game as a whole, they will listen. Cant talk shit on forums, then continue to play. Make a statement. If you want change, make change. Cause obviously they have dug their heels in on this core issue. Lack of content makes this a non issue for Bungie. This is their way to keep players grinding for hours. They have no intention of giving in that easy. They have no NEW content to offer other than reskin city that they keep taking us on a tour through. Make a statement. Take a break. Because at this point they are practically DARING players to do so. Your move.

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                    • Edited by Freak: 4/13/2019 7:08:39 AM
                      A consumers Roller Coaster Ride Vanilla D1: A different FPS very Grindy but with amazing Gunplay! D1: Removing Elemental Primaries(while unpopular, it lead to must have pve loadouts. It’s pve ffs!) TTK April Update. Vendor rolls Rise of Iron! Bringing back Elemental Primaries as Exotics. Balanced PvE OP loadouts. Actual logical move! Now [b]We[/b] assumed Bungie learned a lot from D1’s successes and shortcomings and are all aboard the hype Train!(most of us anyway.) Now let me quote Mr. Penn and Travis Dane! “Assumption is the Mother of all Fckups!” Bungies evil Twin Bungo introduces itself. D2 is finally released. Players love Mantling! Things look promising. Then a few days in players realize something. D2 has Zero Endgame. Exotics are handed out like candy. PvP was changed to 4v4.(Could have been a good move) but it has far too slow of a ttk. Almost immediately leading to team shooting. It lasts too long and is many eyes is boring AF. Changes are needed. Then someone on Reddit uncovers the smoke and mirrors.(I’ll admit I didn’t care at the time) but it was part of a bigger issue. Bungie the fun loving company built by gamers for gamers had a cancer growing from within. They cared more about product revenue than it’s playerbase. Then a breaking point is reached. Bungie has to change. How is Bungie going to make your 50th Better Devils meaningful? Then the Change happens we all thought we were getting with D2’s initial release. Skipping ahead. Bungie Changes again But is it too far to the other end of the spectrum? Bungo has struck again. Now all the grinders are happy! Ultimately leaving the regular players of this franchise feeling punished with the lack of materials aka Enhancement Cores. Now most of this is common knowledge and some is massively shared opinion. Either way it’s time to face the cold Hard Facts. 1) Stop alienating one side of the playerbase. You always go from one end of the spectrum all the way to the other end! There is no middle ground with you. 2)ProActive is much better than being Reactive! The Bungie we all fell in love with no longer exists. To Bungie: If you’re reading this and you somehow survive(only through the communities fleeting trust) D3 better be ONE HELL OF A GAME with none of your BS shenanigans. My 2 biggest fears in life. Is dying knowing I owe people. Be it money or favors or even time. Bridges rarely mend. Don’t be that guy. No one speaks well of that guy. My first is Familia! Are they taken care of when I leave this world? What we’re asking from [b]You[/b] Bungie is SIMPLE! Learn from your achievements AND your misjudgments! Only the Traveler knows you’ve had ur fair share of Shadiness. With you coming into your own, being free from others You [b]need[/b] your community [b]now[/b] more than ever! Never forget what got you here! We want to thrive along with you on this Journey! Do the right thing this time Bungie. Compromise if you must. Either reduce the cost Infusion down to one core per and Cut the MasterWork costs in half as well. Or do away completely with EC Infusion costs! It doesn’t have to be both. Either will help! [b]Your Move Bungie[/b] ~ a Concerned Consumer

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                    • Remove enhancement cores from infusion. Lower the availability of enhancement cores. Change the name back to masterwork cores. And only require masterwork cores for masterworking items. This would accomplish your goal of making “meaningful decisions” while upgrading your gear without pissing off a majority of your player base. Please and thank you.

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