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4/10/2019 11:49:44 PM
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[you just proved my point, spider is a tedious guy to visit who doesn’t truly reward any player who goes out to him.]
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  • Edited by TJ_Dot: 4/10/2019 11:54:26 PM
    To spend 5 minutes on stocking up materials isn't even near as tedious as spending over an hour and a half to get 7 cores. That's why I compared them.

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  • [how do you spend over an hour getting cores? What are you doing, not dismantling masterworked gear you don’t want? If ou just play the game to do stuff you’ll get cores naturally. The spider bounties are only tedious because you have to jump to different planets for all of them. The lost sector bounties take less than 10 minutes and his weekly might take a half hour at most. It’s tedious, nothing more nothing less.]

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  • Public events and HVT waiting can take a while

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  • [than do other stuff while waiting. You know, like lost sector bounties and dismantling that masterworked gear you hate with a burning passion. There’s a lot of that in this game for you guys right? Another solution is leave me as one of the guys to change the bigger issues than cores to make the game more appealing after you leave so you might have a decent reason to come back.]

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  • Ok let me just do a lost sector on earth, while waiting for an HVT on Mars, and a Public event on the Tangled shore. No way to actually track those, but whatever I guess. Stupid loops are fine I suppose.

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  • [or you could go with the second option I provided which gives you a chance to help with any burnout from this game.]

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  • My core capacity has grown as I chose to use them less. Defeats the purpose of having them and doesn't change my point. I'm not out to get more cores, I want the cores I do use to actually be worth a damn.

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  • [Which they are, sort of. What do you want them to be required for every menial task like how glimmer is? Want a bounty, well that’s gonna cost you a core. Want a mod, another core buddy. I’m assuming you don’t want that, but how would they be worth a damn to you. Tell me how you think they could be made to be worthwhile.]

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  • Masterworks. (and probably make them better, armor sucks kinda) As well as other suggestions I've seen: Enhance armor perks re-rolls Re-rolls of masterworks. More random things we can come up with. Beef up sparrows: Unlock basic QoL perks by this point. Increase speed on those behind for some dumb reason. More health. The options are there, but it has to be within reason and not in anyone's way.

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  • [that all makes sense. But I’d also like it in infusion for the simple matter of the nature of free choice. For a choice to be free each option has to have consequences, good and bad. For infusion as it is now, the choices (with consequences) are as follows: A: infuse now for stronger gear but less cores in the long term Or B: infuse later and have more core but I have to wait to get stronger See the “meaningful” choice now? I personally don’t like Bungie’s wording as all real choices are meaningful, this one is just a thoughtful choice.]

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  • Without cores: "Do I infuse 1 number at a time, blow all of my glimmer, shards and materials?" OR "Do I Infuse efficiently and bring everything else up once I'm max?". Don't even need cores in the equation.

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  • [all of that can be rounded up relatively easily. Besides, both those choices have the same outcome, you’re stronger and slightly lower on easy to get recourses. Cores add actual consequence to the choice. But you already knew that. Which is why we’re here. People like you, whether high or low in cores, not liking that a certain choice finally has a meaningful consequence.]

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  • Infusion isn't some high stakes choice that needs some high stakes consequence

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  • [you don’t get it. Every single choice you have made and will make has a consequence, it doesn’t even need to be high-stakes. It can be something as simple and passed over a choosing what socks to wear. Or it can be what you decide to make for lunch. It could even be how you react to every person throughout your day. Infusion may not be a high-steaks choice, but it is a choice, and choices have consequences. The consequence for me continuing to try and tell you this is possibly dragging on this conversation longer than it needs to. Your choice to even claim that cores aren’t created my our little conversation to begin with, where as if you kept your mouth shut we could both be going about our evenings by now. Do you understand what I’m saying yet?]

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