Make these two pinnacle weapons behave exactly like other 150 hand cannons. The problem with them now, coupled with the fast fire rate, is their ease of use compared to other hand cannons because of the vertical recoil. If these weapons keep the characteristics of 180s, the ease of use factor will still be a problem, and they will still two of the easiest, fastest ttk weapons in the game (even thorns 2 head, 1 body ttk would take longer because of burn) landing the first two shots as precision hits should be the focal point of the weapon as always, but lowering the firing rate is not enough to keep these weapons in line. Also, nerfing mag howl to only work on body shots goes against the nature of the gun, which is landing precision hits. It would only make sense to nerf howl to work on only PRECISION hits IF it stayed as a 180 rpm. Either nerf mag howl and keep the fire rate, or take away the chacteristics of 180s and make it a true 150