dude, 140/150 HC were amazing in y1 and when was the last time you consistently saw them? Almost never because they nerfed them and added bs bloom. My nerfing to the ground comment isnt strictly just for LH & NF - almost every weapon that bungie "adjusts" ends up fading into darkness because it becomes no longer viable and other items are just the clear cut choice. Give it time - something else will dethrone them and people will complain about that one next.