[quote]In your hypothetical scenario more then likely every gun would be able to ohk body already. Unlimited ammo would be its "broken perk".[/quote] I never stated that. Seeing as you need clarification, every other gun behaves like guns currently in the game, apart from the specific outlier I wanted you to think about. [quote]Nf/luna were already pretty balanced. They were high risk high reward.[/quote] As someone has already said to you in another reply, you're on PC, an entirely different landscape. On console, i.e. for the vast majority of players, Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten are as imbalanced as possible. There are no-risk, high reward. They're in the best HC archetype available and they work around all of that archetype's natural weaknesses, being low Range and low damage per shot. [quote]People don't use ace though because of bloom. If bloom was simply removed that would've drastically opened up the meta. But buffs are apparently hard.[/quote] That would barely do anything to the meta in terms of opening it up, if anything it might make it worse. The removal of bloom would only encourage the use of Hand Cannons. You don't see people complaining that Pulse Rifles or Scout Rifles suffer from bloom, do you?