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The elitist players have destoryed QP making it a barren wasteland. Crucible is meant for everyone to have fun and enjoyment, not for a playground for elitist players to feel like gods while everyone else just feels oppressed and no enjoyment in playing it. If you don't want NF/Luna's nerfed than Bungie would be forced to reintroduce SBMM in order to help the PvP playerbase rebound. By the day the numbers in QP drop because of the barrier of entry has become MUST HAVE PVP PINNACLE WEAPON TO HAVE FUN.
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  • Edited by Kill it Oryx: 4/27/2019 12:03:34 AM
    "MUST HAVE PVP PINNACLE WEAPON TO HAVE FUN" - False. I started playing a couple of months ago, and I had fun from the beginning. Pulse rifles are easy to get and lets a new player compete from the beginning. What is hard for the beginer IMO is lack of map knowledge, and shotguns and heavy machine guns (lack of map knowledge makes it worse against shotguns). I think the reason why many say they don't have fun because of pinnacle weapons is that they don't have the right mentality for PvP and they prefer to blame these weapons when things don't go their way, [PC!]

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  • PC meta is very different from the console meta. PC you can use every HC and have Pulse rifles be able to counter snipe across the map. Console where the majority of the playerbase is has been opressed completely by NF/Luna for 8 months where they are the only HCs in the game you can use and they can out gun most pulse rifles except for certain maps if you have long sidelines. Please understand what I am speaking of is pertaining to console, not PC. PC has its own issue brewing with Recluse.

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  • Agree. Even true vanguard was talking about this. On pc there are a lot of high latency matches unless you run a router with a geo filter and the weapon imbalance only amplifies it. It's back to a handful of weapons being the only usable choices. The biggest problem with the two revolvers is you increase the skill Gap even further by putting the best weapons in the hands of the best players. How are you supposed to attract new players doing this

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  • no you dont i easily kill lunas recluse and mountaintop without a pinnacle

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  • You just hope it’s going to change something. QP is still going to the stomping grounds for good players. No reason to play comp at all anymore.

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  • [quote]You just hope it’s going to change something. QP is still going to the stomping grounds for good players. No reason to play comp at all anymore.[/quote] Absolutely! The difference is that the massive number of average players won’t be constantly destroying other average players that don’t have Luna’s/NF. Just going by simple logic it should improve things for the bulk of the players base that is left. This probably wouldn’t have been the issue it is right now if it weren’t for the massive number of account recovery weapons that infested QP.

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  • the only thing bungie had to do is make the guns comp only, that way qp goes back to the way it should be. keep them the same, only for comp use, simple

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  • You know the incentive to grind for pinnacles would instantly sink to 0 if they were mode specifc?

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  • so what? that's a players choice to grind or not, you want to dominate comp, grind, if not, then don't. you want more nerfs, so be it, but don't complain when they aren't as viable anymore. enjoy your nerfed guns that you grinded days for, i love how people don't care if bungie respects the time and effort put into grinding for items. I guess you like to waste your time, because when they are nerfed, that's exactly what you did.

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  • Lmao. It’s that simple is it?

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  • yup

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  • Hell I would take that.

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