It made the crucible so oversaturated and that's what caused the ikelos shotgun to get a nerf: Oversaturation and now that NF and Luna's are getting a nerf crucible will be lest saturated and more like D1 where everyone felt what they used were good for them: crucible pinnacle weapons ruin PvP, they're either too strong or too weak *cough* [i]redrix[/i] *cough*