Not PvE players, PvE players don't play PvP unless they have to to get a weapon or something they can't get otherwise, and therefor don't care about what's OP in PvP. You're talking about players that play both PvE and PvP, not just PvE.
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[quote]as far as guns though? It's all the pve guys crying when "being forced into pvp" to do thorn and tlw. Just check 9/10 posts here the week of each of those quests going live.[/quote] Go ahead and re-read.
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Kind of, sort of, most of those posts were for the quests themselves, not the weapons. Before these recent quests that require PvP to get weapons, there were no PvP requirements to get weapons and things were still nerfed constantly, so what was the cause of that.
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Valid point. I would argue that's where the majority of the Luna's not forgotten hate came from though, which lead to the upcoming nerf. Non pvp guys getting scraped by them while trying to get those quests done. Especially the last word with its loss mechanic. I do see your side of the coin though.
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I can agree with that. I should have been more clear with my earlier posts, now that I've gone back and reread I can see where I wasn't very clear with my point, and I could have been less hostile too. I apologize for that.
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Same, glad we could come to a civil conclusion. It's rare in these parts lol. See ya out there Guardian.