You talk about what PVP players ask for, yet you willingly ignore the fact that is was your precious crucible that almost (emphasis on almost) single handedly destroyed nearly every weapon archetype, super, ability and ammo economy throughout Destiny's history. You can't even keep weapons that were specifically tailored towards you without breaking in tears. And who suffers the most out of this? PVE players who want to sit back and relax without caring about "balance". If you whiners kill outbreak prime, then you'll only have yourselves to blame if you're call out for it. And yes, i'm fully aware that there have been [i]some[/i] nerfs credited towards PVE. But the most important fact about that is they are either wholly rejected by the player base or have little to no impact on PVP. That Wardcliff coil damage nerf to bosses and vehicles must really suck against other guardians, mustn't it?