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6/28/2019 8:06:07 PM
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The Community and Raids

I'd Sherpa anyone using any gun

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Good Luck with that

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I'd like to learn

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Hi Everybody, I'm not sure this is the correct place to put this, but I wanted to address an issue about raiding and the community. Earlier I read a disheartening thread where a fellow player mentioned that their raiding experiences since Destiny 2 release have not been as fun or as good as they were in Destiny 1. They mentioned that it was the mechanics of the raids, but after reading their statements it sounds more like a lack patience on their teacher's part that made the raid more difficult than it needed to be. This brings up a greater overall issue with the community. I'm not sure there is a dedicated spot for people to go where they want to learn the raid through hands on experience. A lot of the fireteams created for raiding have requirements like the participants are applying for a job. I remember in Destiny 1 you could go to a streamer or another person and put together a raid while carrying the worst guns, because your teacher was willing to spend time teaching you. I do want to mention that I am not speaking against having requirements for raids. If someone wants to create a fireteam and they have an idea for who they want on their team, then your fireteam members should fit that idea. It keeps people from getting frustrated and makes sure that newer raiding members steer clear of an environment where they will probably not be welcome. So, please, if you are looking for people with X thing then do keep adding those requirements. But there aren't many people out there just looking to help people get experience and completions with the raid. So, if you are reading this and want to learn the raid here is what I recommend. First, make sure you are 721 light. It just makes everything easier if your enemies aren't killing you faster while you are learning. Second, find a teacher and not just a raid guide. A lot of people learn better through first hand experience. If you need a teacher I am willing to teach Crown of Sorrows to anyone, just message me, reply to this thread -shrugs-, send a pigeon, and we can coordinate a time. Unfortunately I'm only on PSN right now, but next season I'll be on PC too. Third, and this is the most important part, be clear about what you need. If you are with a teacher and they say something that confuses you, wait until they finish and ask for clarification or for them to explain it differently. Don't place blame, but do ask for clarification, we all think and learn differently. For Sherpas, I think we need to make sure that the learners know we are out there. I currently have only sherpa-ed fellow clan members for the past couple of years, but I love teaching new raids. We also need to be aware that the same teaching method doesn't work for everyone, just because you explained something doesn't mean they understood. Be patient and understand that a teaching raid doesn't always get a completion, and that's ok. You can try again and they'll know more than they did before. The community is so focused on what guns are the best, and what is the optimal way to _____ that they forget some people just want to sit back and relax with their friends. Raids are end game content, but they are also something that a more casual player definitely has the skills to do.

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  • This biggest problem imo is not the sherpas but the first time raiders. You could spend a year watching different tutorials on the same raid on youtube or even go and watch a streamer do a raid. And before you argue that this isn’t plausible, if someone has access to destiny they have access to YouTube. First time raiders need to take the 15 or 20 minutes it takes to watch a even basic video on the mechanics of the raid. If it’s a newer raid like a week or two old then fine and if you want to purposely go in blind then tell your team that who (likely is also going in blind otherwise that defeats the point) will then adjust accordingly. I was doing last wish the other day and someone joins struggles through the encounter for almost 30 minutes before leaving in the middle of a run we looked up his stats and he had apparently never raided before and didn’t know what was going on. This was frustrating for us not necessarily because he didn’t know what he was doing (it’s been out for a year now watch a video i mean come on) but because he didn’t tell us and acted like he has a clue what was going on. The issue is 99% of the time the person being sherpad not the Sherpa. End rant

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